X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-gx0-f180.google.com ([209.85.161.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.10) with ESMTP id 4583123 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 00:51:30 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.161.180; envelope-from=david.staten@gmail.com Received: by gxk8 with SMTP id 8so1871991gxk.25 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:50:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; bh=V0FIqTiyLJqXqB86pWkjpgjuJ0DQbHstcddjuH3PKOo=; b=UahNZvhiIEzaXYsKNlS50PPhS1T3hRQRbrAOlGNnmTEouWjeCquF0esEoFDBYvn5ag WzWYMRWbGvWLGMsQDFJreU1dVlB3O0JihSArSjHb+4zH2WnRHxX/GcOXGt0RH5T3ifPk B55bcqt+aoYwZH/wxRd2WJv8uh0Tz/h4AmsRk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; b=oxTUJdBHdXYJnDoKzVTiL2mvwv1RKDegbJYN2idXBfRJH14nWNks20sbK0CtmG6wHh XIEfwjKoplSen6/LpA2ffEtNzDBCR4PaH7qc6aJklQasGvIKdisTw+32yr52HIcJVS5E tdLukcJKFASR9I2EABv5eA3bQaGT8pdFy87bI= Received: by 10.91.11.6 with SMTP id o6mr385825agi.91.1290059454245; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:50:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([216.80.142.154]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w3sm24331anw.5.2010.11.17.21.50.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:50:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4CE4BEB8.70801@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 23:50:48 -0600 From: Dave User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: N343BS Update References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000906010507030406040309" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000906010507030406040309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ellington lies UNDER the class B.. you can transit the VFR corridor along the north side of I-10 and then turn south when you are east of the Beltway 8/Sam Houston Tollway and Ship Channel Bridge, and that will give you a 5 mile straight in to Ellington (just about)... and never have to get a class b clearance. Houston approach is good about flight following, but they rarely used to take handoffs from center for VFR. On 11/17/2010 7:00 PM, Mark Steitle wrote: > Chris, > > I would welcome the chance to look over your project. In fact, I've > actually recently considered dropping by, but with my stubborn tuning > issues I've been forced to stay near my home base. Now that I've made > some good progress (reworked & upgraded EC-2) I have started flying > further from home base. While I'm not used to flying in Class B > airspace, it will provide a good excuse to brush up on my radio calls. > So, I will definitely stop by one weekend soon. > > Mark > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Chris Barber > > wrote: > > Mark, > Remember, if you are looking for a destination, Houston's > Ellington Field (EFD) can be a very welcoming place. Close to > NASA and astronauts have been know to stop by the hangars. Perhaps > a slice of Pizza or even an adult beverage or two if'n you aren't > flying for a bit. > Oh, and perhaps you could even take a look at my project too ;-) > > Cpl Christopher Barber, JD. > Master Peace Officer > Badge 330 > Bellaire Police Department > 5100 Jessamine > Bellaire, Texas 77401 > 713-668-0487 > CBarber@BellariePolice.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net > ] on behalf of Mark Steitle > [msteitle@gmail.com ] > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 17, 2010 13:48 > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: N343BS Update > > Bill, > Good report! We all like to hear about those. My BMA EFIS-1 is > still working, but I'm about ready to change to something else. > It is good to hear that it wasn't the FWF that has delayed your > flying. > My biggest obstacle has been tuning, and mufflers. I think I > have the tuning almost ironed out now. I'm sitting at approx. 168 > hrs now, but many of those hours are from ground running. My > longest trip has been from Lockhart to Denver. That's about 700 > miles each way. The original side-ported motor turned an honest > 159 knots in cruise mode. > I replaced the side-ported 20b with a p-ported 20b last December. > It now cruises at 174 kts. ;-) > Mark > > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Bill Schertz > > wrote: > > Mark, > If the weather weren’t so crappy today, I would have the 40 > hours under my belt. Sitting at 39.4 right now. > It has been an interesting process. As I reported earlier, My > Blue Mountain failed last year, (after about 10 hours of > flight test) at the same time that they went ‘belly up’. Greg > DID fix the unit, but I lost over 6 months waiting for the > resolution, so I rewired the panel for a Grand Rapids system. > Got it back in the air in April this year. Had some Motor > Home travel mixed in, so am just wrapping up the test program. > I have a 76x76 Catto prop, and can get 6100 RPM static. Has a > very good climb rate compared to the certified planes that I > used to fly. Still have some tuning issues to tweak, but it > runs strong and steady over most of the range. Yesterday I did > a circle of the test area in cruise mode. Equivalent of > 100 > mile cross country. > I think I am still marginal on cooling for hot weather, but > the weather is cool now so I am delaying doing anything more > about that until summer. > Bill Schertz > KIS Cruiser #4045 > N343BS > Phase I testing (almost done) > *From:* Mark Steitle > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:51 AM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Todd Bartrim on "ebay"...not > Bill, > Good point. I measure mine on the inlet side of the WP, so it > would naturally read lower. > How's your flying going? Have you flown off your 40 hours? > Any problems that you would want to share with the group? > Mark > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Bill Schertz > > wrote: > > Mark, > It depends where the pressure sensor is. Mine is on the > outlet side of the water pump, so it measures the static > pressure as well as the dynamic head pressure that is > forcing the water through the radiator. I have a 10# cap > on the reservoir at the low side, and it holds the > pressure of the system. > Bill Schertz > KIS Cruiser #4045 > N343BS > Phase I testing > *From:* Mark Steitle > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:51 AM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Todd Bartrim on "ebay"...not > Doug, > I paused the video on the EM-2 frames and noticed a couple > of things. RPM showing NOP, Fuel Pressure = 50, Water > Pressure = 30. I normally see about 13 psi WP. I just > though it was interesting that the RPM was INOP. Maybe he > has a separate tach. Personally, I would be concerned to > see 30 psi WP. > > Mark > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:43 AM, > wrote: > > Wow...I"m going to have to get a nap! Meant "I-Tunes" > vs e-bay! Interesting to see his EM-2 in some of the > video frames as he explores various flight regimes! > > dl > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > Warning: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or > previous e-mails attached to it, may contain confidential > information that is legally privileged. If you are not the > intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering it to > the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information > contained in or attached to this transmission is STRICTLY > PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error, > please immediately notify us by telephone at 713-662-8132 and > destroy the original transmission and its attachments without > reading them. Thank you. > > --------------000906010507030406040309 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ellington lies UNDER the class B.. you can transit the VFR corridor along the north side of I-10 and then turn south when you are east of the Beltway 8/Sam Houston Tollway and Ship Channel Bridge, and that will give you a 5 mile straight in to Ellington (just about)... and never have to get a class b clearance.

Houston approach is good about flight following, but they rarely used to take handoffs from center for VFR.

On 11/17/2010 7:00 PM, Mark Steitle wrote:
Chris,

I would welcome the chance to look over your project.  In fact, I've actually recently considered dropping by, but with my stubborn tuning issues I've been forced to stay near my home base.  Now that I've made some good progress (reworked & upgraded EC-2) I have started flying further from home base.  While I'm not used to flying in Class B airspace, it will provide a good excuse to brush up on my radio calls.  So, I will definitely stop by one weekend soon.  

Mark   

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Chris Barber <cbarber@bellairepolice.com> wrote:
Mark,
 
Remember, if you are looking for a destination, Houston's Ellington Field (EFD) can be a very welcoming place.  Close to NASA and astronauts have been know to stop by the hangars. Perhaps a slice of Pizza or even an adult beverage or two if'n you aren't flying for a bit.
 
Oh, and perhaps you could even take a look at my project too ;-)

Cpl Christopher Barber, JD.
Master Peace Officer
Badge 330
Bellaire Police Department
5100 Jessamine
Bellaire, Texas 77401
 
713-668-0487

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of Mark Steitle [msteitle@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 13:48
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: N343BS Update

Bill,
 
Good report!  We all like to hear about those.  My BMA EFIS-1 is still working, but I'm about ready to change to something else.  It is good to hear that it wasn't the FWF that has delayed your flying. 
 
My biggest obstacle has been tuning, and mufflers.  I think I have the tuning almost ironed out now.  I'm sitting at approx. 168 hrs now, but many of those hours are from ground running.  My longest trip has been from Lockhart to Denver.  That's about 700 miles each way.  The original side-ported motor turned an honest 159 knots in cruise mode. 
 
I replaced the side-ported 20b with a p-ported 20b last December.  It now cruises at 174 kts.  ;-) 
 
Mark


 
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Bill Schertz <wschertz@comcast.net> wrote:
Mark,
If the weather weren’t so crappy today, I would have the 40 hours under my belt. Sitting at 39.4 right now.
 
It has been an interesting process. As I reported earlier, My Blue Mountain failed last year, (after about 10 hours of flight test) at the same time that they went ‘belly up’. Greg DID fix the unit, but I lost over 6 months waiting for the resolution, so I rewired the panel for a Grand Rapids system.  Got it back in the air in April this year.  Had some Motor Home travel mixed in, so am just wrapping up the test program.
 
I have a 76x76 Catto prop, and can get 6100 RPM static.  Has a very good climb rate compared to the certified planes that I used to fly. Still have some tuning issues to tweak, but it runs strong and steady over most of the range. Yesterday I did a circle of the test area in cruise mode. Equivalent of > 100 mile cross country.
 
I think I am still marginal on cooling for hot weather, but the weather is cool now so I am delaying doing anything more about that until summer.
 
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser #4045
N343BS
Phase I testing (almost done)
 
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:51 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Todd Bartrim on "ebay"...not
 
Bill,
 
Good point.  I measure mine on the inlet side of the WP, so it would naturally read lower.
 
How's your flying going?  Have you flown off your 40 hours?  Any problems that you would want to share with the group? 
 
Mark

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Bill Schertz <wschertz@comcast.net> wrote:
Mark,
It depends where the pressure sensor is. Mine is on the outlet side of the water pump, so it measures the static pressure as well as the dynamic head pressure that is forcing the water through the radiator. I have a 10# cap on the reservoir at the low side, and it holds the pressure of the system.
 
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser #4045
N343BS
Phase I testing
 
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:51 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Todd Bartrim on "ebay"...not
 
Doug,
 
I paused the video on the EM-2 frames and noticed a couple of things.  RPM showing NOP, Fuel Pressure = 50, Water Pressure = 30.  I normally see about 13 psi WP.  I just though it was interesting that the RPM was INOP.  Maybe he has a separate tach.  Personally, I would be concerned to see 30 psi WP. 

Mark
 
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:43 AM, <dlomheim@aol.com> wrote:
Wow...I"m going to have to get a nap!  Meant "I-Tunes" vs e-bay!  Interesting to see his EM-2 in some of the video frames  as he explores various flight regimes!

dl
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