X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from securemail.ever-tek.com ([64.129.170.194] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.10) with ESMTP id 4582974 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:30:29 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.129.170.194; envelope-from=cbarber@texasattorney.net Received: from fcd-mail06.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([2002:404:40b::404:40b]) by FCD-MAIL06.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([2002:404:40b::404:40b]) with mapi; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 20:29:09 -0600 From: Chris Barber To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: N343BS Update Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: N343BS Update Thread-Index: AQHLhrv0dTFGbM6G+kibAAQXda96JpN2gvMw Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 02:26:54 +0000 Message-ID: <2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D3032763A5F@FCD-MAIL06.FCDATA.PRIVATE> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D3032763A5FFCDMAIL06FCDATA_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D3032763A5FFCDMAIL06FCDATA_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark, Thanks for the consideration. I relish the opportunity to have another roto= r-head take a look at my work. I am betting you understand. Chris Barber Houston 832-818-CELL (2355) ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of = Mark Steitle [msteitle@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:00 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: N343BS Update Chris, I would welcome the chance to look over your project. In fact, I've actual= ly recently considered dropping by, but with my stubborn tuning issues I've= been forced to stay near my home base. Now that I've made some good progr= ess (reworked & upgraded EC-2) I have started flying further from home base= . While I'm not used to flying in Class B airspace, it will provide a good= excuse to brush up on my radio calls. So, I will definitely stop by one w= eekend soon. Mark On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Chris Barber > wrote: Mark, Remember, if you are looking for a destination, Houston's Ellington Field (= EFD) can be a very welcoming place. Close to NASA and astronauts have been= know to stop by the hangars. Perhaps a slice of Pizza or even an adult bev= erage or two if'n you aren't flying for a bit. Oh, and perhaps you could even take a look at my project too ;-) Cpl Christopher Barber, JD. Master Peace Officer Badge 330 Bellaire Police Department 5100 Jessamine Bellaire, Texas 77401 713-668-0487 CBarber@BellariePolice.com ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of Mark Steitle [msteitle@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 13:48 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: N343BS Update Bill, Good report! We all like to hear about those. My BMA EFIS-1 is still work= ing, but I'm about ready to change to something else. It is good to hear t= hat it wasn't the FWF that has delayed your flying. My biggest obstacle has been tuning, and mufflers. I think I have the tuni= ng almost ironed out now. I'm sitting at approx. 168 hrs now, but many of = those hours are from ground running. My longest trip has been from Lockhar= t to Denver. That's about 700 miles each way. The original side-ported mo= tor turned an honest 159 knots in cruise mode. I replaced the side-ported 20b with a p-ported 20b last December. It now c= ruises at 174 kts. ;-) Mark On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Bill Schertz > wrote: Mark, If the weather weren=92t so crappy today, I would have the 40 hours under m= y belt. Sitting at 39.4 right now. It has been an interesting process. As I reported earlier, My Blue Mountain= failed last year, (after about 10 hours of flight test) at the same time t= hat they went =91belly up=92. Greg DID fix the unit, but I lost over 6 mont= hs waiting for the resolution, so I rewired the panel for a Grand Rapids sy= stem. Got it back in the air in April this year. Had some Motor Home trav= el mixed in, so am just wrapping up the test program. I have a 76x76 Catto prop, and can get 6100 RPM static. Has a very good cl= imb rate compared to the certified planes that I used to fly. Still have so= me tuning issues to tweak, but it runs strong and steady over most of the r= ange. Yesterday I did a circle of the test area in cruise mode. Equivalent = of > 100 mile cross country. I think I am still marginal on cooling for hot weather, but the weather is = cool now so I am delaying doing anything more about that until summer. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser #4045 N343BS Phase I testing (almost done) From: Mark Steitle Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:51 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Todd Bartrim on "ebay"...not Bill, Good point. I measure mine on the inlet side of the WP, so it would natura= lly read lower. How's your flying going? Have you flown off your 40 hours? Any problems t= hat you would want to share with the group? Mark On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Bill Schertz > wrote: Mark, It depends where the pressure sensor is. Mine is on the outlet side of the = water pump, so it measures the static pressure as well as the dynamic head = pressure that is forcing the water through the radiator. I have a 10# cap o= n the reservoir at the low side, and it holds the pressure of the system. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser #4045 N343BS Phase I testing From: Mark Steitle Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:51 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Todd Bartrim on "ebay"...not Doug, I paused the video on the EM-2 frames and noticed a couple of things. RPM = showing NOP, Fuel Pressure =3D 50, Water Pressure =3D 30. I normally see a= bout 13 psi WP. I just though it was interesting that the RPM was INOP. M= aybe he has a separate tach. Personally, I would be concerned to see 30 ps= i WP. Mark On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:43 AM, > wrote: Wow...I"m going to have to get a nap! Meant "I-Tunes" vs e-bay! Interesti= ng to see his EM-2 in some of the video frames as he explores various flig= ht regimes! dl Sent on the Sprint=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=AE -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.= html Warning: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-m= ails attached to it, may contain confidential information that is legally p= rivileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible = for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that a= ny disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information conta= ined in or attached to this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. 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Mark,
 
Thanks for the consideration. I relish the opportunity to have another=  rotor-head take a look at my work.  I am betting you unde= rstand.
 
Chris Barber
Houston
832-818-CELL (2355)
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary= @lancaironline.net] on behalf of Mark Steitle [msteitle@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:00 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: N343BS Update

Chris,

I would welcome the chance to look over your project.  In fact, I= 've actually recently considered dropping by, but with my stubborn tuning i= ssues I've been forced to stay near my home base.  Now that I've made = some good progress (reworked & upgraded EC-2) I have started flying further from home base.  While I'm not used to = flying in Class B airspace, it will provide a good excuse to brush up on my= radio calls.  So, I will definitely stop by one weekend soon. &n= bsp;

Mark   

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Chris Barber <cbarber= @bellairepolice.com> wrote:
Mark,
 
Remember, if you are looking for a destination, Houston's = Ellington Field (EFD) can be a very welcoming place.  Cl= ose to NASA and astronauts have been know to stop by the hangar= s. Perhaps a slice of Pizza or even an adult beverage or two if'n you aren't flying for a bit.
 
Oh, and perhaps you could even take a look at my project too ;-)

Cpl Christopher Barber, JD= .
Master Peace Officer
Badge 330
Bellaire Police Department=
5100 Jessamine
Bellaire, Texas 77401
 
713-668-0487
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on beh= alf of Mark Steitle [msteitle@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 13:48
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: N343BS Update

Bill,
 
Good report!  We all like to hear about those.&nbs= p; My BMA EFIS-1 is still working, but I'm about ready to change to somethi= ng else.  It is good to hear that it wasn't the FWF that has delayed y= our flying. 
 
My biggest obstacle has been tuning, and mufflers.  I think = I have the tuning almost ironed out now.  I'm sitting at app= rox. 168 hrs now, but many of those hours are from ground running.  My= longest trip has been from Lockhart to Denver.  That's about 700 miles each way.  The original side-ported motor tu= rned an honest 159 knots in cruise mode. 
 
I replaced the side-ported 20b with a p-ported 20b last December. = ; It now cruises at 174 kts.  ;-) 
 
Mark


 
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Bill Schertz <wschertz@comc= ast.net> wrote:
Mark,
If the weather weren=92t so crappy today, I would have the 40 hours un= der my belt. Sitting at 39.4 right now.
 
It has been an interesting process. As I reported earlier, My Blue Mou= ntain failed last year, (after about 10 hours of flight test) at the same t= ime that they went =91belly up=92. Greg DID fix the unit, but I lost over 6= months waiting for the resolution, so I rewired the panel for a Grand Rapids system.  Got it back in the= air in April this year.  Had some Motor Home travel mixed in, so am j= ust wrapping up the test program.
 
I have a 76x76 Catto prop, and can get 6100 RPM static.  Has a ve= ry good climb rate compared to the certified planes that I used to fly. Sti= ll have some tuning issues to tweak, but it runs strong and steady over mos= t of the range. Yesterday I did a circle of the test area in cruise mode. Equivalent of > 100 mile cross country= .
 
I think I am still marginal on cooling for hot weather, but the weathe= r is cool now so I am delaying doing anything more about that until summer.
 
Bill S= chertz
KIS Cruiser #4045
N343BS
Phase I testing (almost done)
 
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:51 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Todd Bartrim on "ebay"...not=
 
Bill,
 
Good point.  I measure mine on the inlet side of the WP, so it wo= uld naturally read lower.
 
How's your flying going?  Have you flown off your 40 hours? = Any problems that you would want to share with the group? 
 
Mark

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Bill Schertz <wschertz@comc= ast.net> wrote:
Mark,
It depends where the pressure sensor is. Mine is on the outlet side of= the water pump, so it measures the static pressure as well as the dynamic = head pressure that is forcing the water through the radiator. I have a 10# = cap on the reservoir at the low side, and it holds the pressure of the system.
 
Bill S= chertz
KIS Cruiser #4045
N343BS
Phase I testing
 
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:51 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Todd Bartrim on "ebay"...not=
 
Doug,
 
I paused the video on the EM-2 frames and noticed a couple of things.&= nbsp; RPM showing NOP, Fuel Pressure =3D 50, Water Pressure =3D 30.  I= normally see about 13 psi WP.  I just though it was interesting that = the RPM was INOP.  Maybe he has a separate tach.  Personally, I would be concerned to see 30 psi WP. 

Mark
 
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:43 AM, <dlomheim@aol.= com> wrote:
Wow...I"m going to have to get a nap!  Meant "I-Tunes" = vs e-bay!  Interesting to see his EM-2 in some of the video frames&nbs= p; as he explores various flight regimes!

dl
Sent on the Sprint=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=AE
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