X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.42] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.9) with ESMTP id 4487670 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:43:44 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.206.42; envelope-from=Lehanover@aol.com Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o8UGgoHM030918 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:42:50 -0400 Received: from Lehanover@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id q.c6e.4a6657da (43846) for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:42:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magic-m20.mail.aol.com (magic-m20.mail.aol.com [172.20.22.193]) by cia-dc04.mx.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADC043-ab464ca4be043c7; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:42:44 -0400 From: Lehanover@aol.com Message-ID: <34b63.6a3a429b.39d61804@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:42:44 EDT Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: SAG from Paducah To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_34b63.6a3a429b.39d61804_boundary" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5381 X-AOL-IP: 173.88.9.178 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Lehanover@aol.com --part1_34b63.6a3a429b.39d61804_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/30/2010 10:47:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, SBoese@uwyo.edu writes: Lynn and Bill, Data recorded (including among others: RPM, EGT, coolant temperature, and oil temperature) in flight under SAG conditions compared to data recorded in flight under spark plug misfire conditions (by disabling ignition coils) suggest that the SAG event is possibly a preignition condition rather than spark plug misfire due to fouling. Examination of new and used spark plugs indicate that the preignition may occur because of a gradual effective heat range change of the spark plug with continued use as a result of decreasing thermal conductivity of the copper core of the center electrode as well as corrosion between the center electrode and the insulator at the insulator tip. The corrosion appears to be accelerated by the use of leaded fuel compared to the use of 87 octane automotive fuel. Steve Boese Let us review............... We take an engine from a car that usually operates below 2,200 RPM, and at partial throttle for 99.5% of its life, and put it in airplane and run it at 6,000 RPM and wide open throttle for hours on end, and even a cold street plug is boiling cement and rounding electrodes? Now who could have guessed that would happen. The overheated plug boils the cement near the tip of the plug, thermally disconnecting the electrode from the ceramic, and allowing the electrode temperature to run away. This could lead to preignition (an ignition event that occurs before the planned ignition). Unless the mixture is well rich of ideal or well lean of ideal, the pre-ignition would lead quickly to detonation followed by the apex seals getting stuck in the muffler. The high performance Mazda street plugs (turbo plugs) have shielding on the shell ends similar in appearance to some aircraft plugs. They are not aircraft plugs. They will not survive hours at full load wide open throttle. The heat range is cooler than most street plugs it is true, but nothing like a racing plug. Real racing plugs do not have that shielding. They have a welded ground electrode or a fine wire ground electrode stuck through the side of the shell. They have porcelain filling the shell all the way to the end and may have a fine wire center electrode. They are as cold a heat range as is possible to produce. They are orders of magnitude colder than the coldest street plug. More later. Lynn E. Hanover --part1_34b63.6a3a429b.39d61804_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 9/30/2010 10:47:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 SBoese@uwyo.edu writes:
Lynn and Bill,
 
Data recorded (including among=20 others: RPM, EGT, coolant temperature, and oil temperature)= in=20 flight under SAG conditions compared to data recorded in fligh= t=20 under spark plug misfire conditions (by disabling ignition coils) sugges= t that=20 the SAG event is possibly a preignition condition rather tha= n=20 spark plug misfire due to fouling.
 
Examination of new and used spark plugs indicate= that=20 the preignition may occur because of a gradual eff= ective=20 heat range change of the spark plug with continued use as a result= of=20 decreasing thermal conductivity of the copper core of the center electro= de as=20 well as corrosion between the center electrode and the insulator at= =20 the insulator tip.  The corrosion appears to=20 be accelerated by the use of leaded fuel compared to the use= =20 of 87 octane automotive fuel.
 
Steve Boese 
Let us review...............
 
We take an engine from a car that usually operates below 2,200 RPM,= and at=20 partial throttle for 99.5% of its life, and put it in airplane and ru= n it=20 at 6,000 RPM and wide open throttle for hours on end, and even a cold stre= et=20 plug is boiling cement and rounding electrodes? Now who could have guessed= that=20 would happen.
 
The overheated plug boils the cement  near the tip of the plug,= =20 thermally disconnecting the electrode from the ceramic, and allowing the= =20 electrode temperature to run away. This could lead to preignition (an igni= tion=20 event that occurs before the planned ignition). Unless the mixture is well= rich=20 of ideal or well lean of ideal, the pre-ignition would lead quickly to=20 detonation followed by the apex seals getting stuck in the muffler.
 
The high performance Mazda street plugs (turbo plugs) have shielding= on the=20 shell ends similar in appearance to some aircraft plugs. They are not airc= raft=20 plugs. They will not survive hours at full load wide open throttle. The he= at=20 range is cooler than most street plugs it is true, but nothing like a raci= ng=20 plug.
 
Real racing plugs do not have that shielding. They have a welded grou= nd=20 electrode or a fine wire ground electrode stuck through the side of= the=20 shell. They have porcelain filling the shell all the way to the end and ma= y have=20 a fine wire center electrode. They are as cold a heat range as is possible= to=20 produce. They are orders of magnitude colder than the coldest street plug.= =20  
 
More later.
 
Lynn E. Hanover
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