X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from securemail.ever-tek.com ([64.129.170.194] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.8) with ESMTP id 4426759 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:51:25 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.129.170.194; envelope-from=cbarber@texasattorney.net Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D30325AECB7FCDMAIL06FCDATA_" Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:50:30 +0000 From: Chris Barber In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D30325AECB7@FCD-MAIL06.FCDATA.PRIVATE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from fcd-mail06.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([2002:404:40b::404:40b]) byFCD-MAIL05.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([2002:404:509::404:509]) with mapi; Wed, 11 Aug2010 10:50:13 -0500 References: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: New video of my turbo rotary installinmyVelcitySE Thread-Index: AQHLOOh5huucsijfO02MNtmgrltTxJLcZDm+ Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: New video of my turbo rotaryinstallinmyVelcity SE To: Rotary motors in aircraft X-Modus-SURBL: =OK X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: --_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D30325AECB7FCDMAIL06FCDATA_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kelly, I have a 3 lb spring in the wastegate to limit boost. I do not have a manu= al adjustment...just the spring. My desire is to be mindful of detonation i= ssues since this is so often discussed. Figure I should start small. I ha= ve seen boost on my EM2 that seem in line with the spring installed. I am = having a brain bubble on the MP but the Rpm is about 6300 rpm. It seems to= like about 6250 better as I have to play with mixture to get to 6300 for a= few seconds, but will stabilize around 6250 rpm. I am limited to this for = a very short time (less than a minute) since at these power settings my tem= ps start to rise FAST (perhaps bad design...or, perhaps 108 degrees F on th= e ramp with about 98% humidity....perhaps both). The turbo is a "Comp Turbo" T4 with. IIRC, the A/R is .96 with P trim, lik= e John Slade's. The Comp Turbo was recommended the guys at Turbochargers.co= m ( a local Houston company). Perhaps they get a kick back or just like th= e company. The guy I spoke with says it is the brand he uses extensively. I= have the "Performance" 46mm wastegate. Hope this info helps a bit. All the best, Chris Houston, GSOT ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of = Kelly Troyer [keltro@att.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:54 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New video of my turbo rotary installinmyVelcity SE Chris, What boost figures have you seen so far ??................Also please re= fresh us on the particulars of your turbo.........Model , compressor trim , turbine housing= A/R ratio , etc........ Kelly Troyer "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold ________________________________ From: Chris Barber To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 3:01:34 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New video of my turbo rotary install inmyVelcity S= E Have made some high power run ups to about 6300 rpm. The high power runs ar= e brief due to it getting hot fast,ESP with 100degree+ ramp temps. Did a d= ecibel check last night at idle. About 83 at 50ish feet. 87 at 25ish feet.= 92 at prop and 83 in cabin. I shudder at what it must have been before the= turbo. Tuning is improving as I improve my comfort zone with the ecu Sent from my iPhone On Aug 9, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Kelly Troyer > wrote: Chris, looking and sounding gooood !!.....................How is your tuning (= EFI) at this time............Made any hi power runups and how close to first flight are = you......... Kelly Troyer "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold ________________________________ From: Chris Barber > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Mon, August 9, 2010 1:39:00 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] New video of my turbo rotary install in my Velcity SE Much work and time has been spent, but I think I just about have my engine = install where I want it. I took this video today with my new I-Phone. The= quality ok but much better than my old Motorola Cliq (what garbage). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DrhMfuOMJJwc Comments are welcome....well, uh....yeah, they are welcome. :-) All the best, Chris Houston, GSOT --_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D30325AECB7FCDMAIL06FCDATA_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Kelly,
 
I have a 3 lb spring in the wastegate to limit boos= t.  I do not have a manual adjustment...just the spring. My desir= e is to be mindful of detonation issues since this is so often = discussed.  Figure I should start small.  I have seen boost on my EM2 that seem in line with the spring insta= lled.  I am having a brain bubble on the MP but the Rpm is about 6300 = rpm.  It seems to like about 6250 better as I have to play= with mixture to get to 6300 for a few seconds, but will stabilize around 6250 rpm. I am limited to this for a ver= y short time (less than a minute) since at these power settings my tem= ps start to rise FAST (perhaps bad design...or, perhaps 108 d= egrees F on the ramp with about 98% humidity....perhaps both).
 
The turbo is a "Comp Turbo" T4 with. = ; IIRC, the A/R is .96 with P trim, like John Slade's.= The Comp Turbo was recommended the guys at Turbochargers.= com ( a local Houston company).  Perhaps they get a kick back or just like the company. The guy I spoke with says it is the = brand he uses extensively. I have the "Performance" 46mm<= /a> wastegate. 
 
Hope this info helps a bit.
 
All the best,
 
Chris
Houston, GSOT
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary= @lancaironline.net] on behalf of Kelly Troyer [keltro@att.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:54 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New video of my turbo rotary installinmyVel= city SE

Chris,
   What boost figures have you seen so far ??...............= .Also please refresh us on the
particulars of your turbo.........Model , compressor trim , turbi= ne housing A/R ratio , etc........
  
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

From: Chris Barber <cbar= ber@texasattorney.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircra= ft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 = 3:01:34 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ne= w video of my turbo rotary install inmyVelcity SE

Have made some high power run ups to about 6300 rpm. The high power ru= ns are brief due to it getting hot fast,ESP with 100degree+ ramp temps.=  Did a decibel check last night at idle. About 83 at 50ish feet. &nbs= p;87 at 25ish feet. 92 at prop and 83 in cabin. I shudder at what it must have been before the turbo.   Tuning is imp= roving as I improve my comfort zone with the ecu

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 9, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net> wrote:

Chris,
    looking and sounding gooood !!.....................= How is your tuning (EFI) at this
time............Made any hi power runups and how close to first flight= are you.........
 
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

From: Chris Barber <cbarber@texasattorney.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircra= ft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Mon, August 9, 2010 1= :39:00 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] New vi= deo of my turbo rotary install in my Velcity SE

Much work and time has been spent, but I think I just about have my en= gine install where I want it.  I took this video today with my new I-P= hone.  The quality ok but much better than my old Motorola Cliq (what garbage).
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DrhMfuOMJJwc
 
Comments are welcome....well, uh....yeah, they are welcome. :-)
 
All the best,
 
Chris
Houston, GSOT
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