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Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Bad rotary week
From: Tracy Crook <tracy@rotaryaviation.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Nope, that's weight of engine and required systems (cooling, redrive,
alternator & starter).

.  Trying to define it in the same way that Lycoming defines their engine
weight for comparison purposes.  eng mount, brackets, ducts, prop, mounting
hardware, exhaust system, etc must be added for FWF weight.

Tracy

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net> wrote:

> Tracy,
>
>      Is 260 lbs your firewall forward weight ??...................
>
>
> Kelly Troyer
> "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
> "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
>
> "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Tracy Crook <tracy@rotaryaviation.com>
> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> *Sent:* Mon, August 2, 2010 8:29:31 PM
> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Bad rotary week
>
> Hi Dwayne,
>    I estimate I'm getting about 200 HP at 7200 rpm on the Renesis.  230 is
> probably the best you are likely to get when normally aspirated and then you
> will need to turn it a bit faster.  I went all out for weight reduction on
> my RV-4 so the engine & systems came out around 260 lbs.
>
> OTOH, I'm getting about 270 effortless HP from the 20B at 6250 rpm.  Should
> get 300 if turned to 7000.   This install weighs about 90 pounds more than
> the Renesis though.
>
> Tracy
>
>

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Nope, that&#39;s weight of engine and required systems (cooling, redrive, a=
lternator &amp; starter).<br><br>.=A0 Trying to define it in the same way t=
hat Lycoming defines their engine weight for comparison purposes.=A0 eng mo=
unt, brackets, ducts, prop, mounting hardware, exhaust system, etc must be =
added for FWF weight.<br>
<br>Tracy<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:44 AM=
, Kelly Troyer <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:keltro@att.net">kelt=
ro@att.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
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adding-left: 1ex;">
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;"><div></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">Tracy,</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">=A0=A0=A0 </font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">=A0=A0=A0=A0 Is=A0260 lbs your=A0firewall forward wei=
ght ??...................</font></div>
<div>=A0</div>
<p><font size=3D"2">Kelly Troyer<br>&quot;Dyke Delta&quot;_13B ROTARY Engin=
e<br>&quot;RWS&quot;_RD1C/EC2/EM2</font></p>
<p><font size=3D"2">&quot;Mistral&quot;_Backplate/Oil Manifold</font> </p>
<div><br></div>
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r>
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<hr size=3D"1">
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Tracy Crook &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:tracy@rotaryaviation.com" target=3D"_blank">tracy@rotaryaviat=
ion.com</a>&gt;<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Rot=
ary motors in aircraft &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net" t=
arget=3D"_blank">flyrotary@lancaironline.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Mon, August 2, 2010 =
8:29:31 PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Fl=
yRotary] Re: Bad rotary week<br></font><br>Hi Dwayne,<br>=A0=A0 I estimate =
I&#39;m getting about 200 HP at 7200 rpm on the Renesis.=A0 230 is probably=
 the best you are likely to get when normally aspirated and then you will n=
eed to turn it a bit faster.=A0 I went all out for weight reduction on my R=
V-4 so the engine &amp; systems came out around 260 lbs.<br>
<br>OTOH, I&#39;m getting about 270 effortless HP from the 20B at 6250 rpm.=
=A0 Should get 300 if turned to 7000. =A0 This install weighs about 90 poun=
ds more than the Renesis though.<br><br>Tracy <br><br></div></div></div></d=
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