John, from your description, it doesn’t
sound like there is anything wrong with your injectors themselves. It
sure sounds like to me there is something in your wiring that is causing the
injector(s) to open up when you apply power (put the fuse in the
circuit). If all the injectors are clicking when in diagnostic or test
mode – then it’s a strong indication that they are responding as
they should.
There is no way your injectors should be
opening up when you apply power – NO way – unless there is a
circuit providing a ground path for the injectors. That path should ONLY be
provided by the EC2. Since the injectors are clicking
properly when you are in the test mode – that would tend to indicate
your EC2 is hooked up properly and the injectors are responding correctly.
If the injectors were somehow otherwise grounded then the EC2 would probably
not be able to activate the injectors. However, my question is are you
doing the test mode with the injector power fuse installed or uninstalled?
So what is different in your circuit when
you are running the EC2 injector test mode and when you are not? Is there
a relay somewhere that activates when you put the fuse in the circuit?
Ok, for the moment, lets assume your EC2
system is functioning properly – the injector test would tend to indicate
it is wired to the injectors properly – so lets (for the moment) look at
other possible causes of flooding when the injectors are turned on.
How
about too much fuel due to fuel being pulled out of both the Webber system AND
the injectors?
I am assuming that when you have your
injector system ON that you have the WEBBER Carburetor configured so it CAN NOT dispense fuel? Not certain of
your set up, but if the fuel supply to the Webber is not somehow disabled and
you also try to also use the injectors, you are likely going to be getting fuel
from both the Webber and the Injector into the engine - surely flooding
it.
It would probably not be sufficient to
simply turn off fuel to the Webber as it would likely still have fuel in its
float bow – so starting the engine with the injectors would have fuel
from both the injectors and Webber pouring into the engine and flooding it.
Although if you started it up several times, it would likely deplete the fuel
in the float bow with the fuel supply turned off..
IF you can temporarily remove and plug the
fuel line to the Webber thereby taking it our of the fuel equation. Then
fire up the engine to run all of the fuel out of the Webber’s float bowl letting
the engine die (or otherwise drain the Webber’s bowl). Then with
the Webber bowl likely empty (or at least somewhat depleted), then try running
with only your injectors. It may take a try or two as probably all of the
fuel won’t be out of the Webber’s float bow at low rpm and at
higher rpm it may again pull some more fuel out of it. But, a couple of
runs to as high an rpm as you can get before the engine dies – should deplete
the fuel in the float bowl. Then try the injectors.
The problem may not be with the Ec2 system
– it may be with the combination of EC2 injectors and Webber both
providing fuel to the engine resulting in flooding.
From: Rotary motors in aircraft
[mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
Behalf Of John
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 5:31
PM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] injectors
Well I spent the afternoon testing the computer system and
after checking the grounds and the power to the injectors, I ran the engine up
to 180 degrees, stopped for a glass of tea and went back out to the shed and
started the engine, flooding, pulled the fuse quick so as to not flood the
engine. I have the upgrade's so I clipped the stethoscope to each
injector and ran the test mode for the injectors and each on was clicking, so I
tried a restart with the fuse pulled and the engine started. I unplugged
all the injectors and the engine started, so I guess the new set isn't working
any better than the rebuilds I bought from Bruce T. Is there a way to
test those injectors to tell which may be hanging open. I have two cycle
oil and MM oil in the fuel, so every thing should be well lubed, I did this
when I was having a condition with the rotor lube pump. I think I'll go
out this evening after it cools down and see if will still run with the
injectors unplugged. I'll have to wait till Tracy gets home to find out if it's Okay to
run with the Weber with the fuel side of the computer turned off.
JohnD....Thank you for your help!