Return-Path: <13brv3@bellsouth.net> Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.70] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2914762 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 19:57:03 -0500 Received: from rad ([68.155.100.58]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20040103005703.GJAW1951.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@rad> for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 19:57:03 -0500 From: "Russell Duffy" <13brv3@bellsouth.net> To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: oil cooler scoop, filter, and EWP mounting Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 18:57:02 -0600 Message-ID: <000001c3d194$80272580$6001a8c0@rad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3D162.358CB580" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3D162.358CB580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You've got it in the right ball park, Rusty. I also eliminate the stock cowl air intake and put my oil scoop there. See my oil scoop, it is = 10.5" wide and averages 2 .5" high for around 26 square inches. An Aussie, = Ian ,appears to get away with a bit smaller inlet (his the white bird). I suggest making the bottom lip with a bit of a smooth airfoil like = entrance to ensure that when you have the nose up in a climb that air will still = be induced to flow around the lip and into your scoop.=20 =20 Thanks for the comments, and pics Ed. I spent some time at the hanger = this afternoon, and have decided that the evap core is somewhere in the top = 10 wonders of the world. =20 =20 My Setrab just takes up too much space (long, and wide, but thin) to be = able to fit very. Since the bottom of the cowl is curved, the larger foot = print of the Setrab lifts it up higher than the thicker evap core. I found = that I can slide the 3rd evap core just under the starter, and be able to sneak = the exhaust pipes out behind it. The fittings will even end up being on the right side, which is perfect. Mounting it will be a breeze, and even = the scoop won't be that bad to make. This is just going too well, so I must = be doing something wrong :-) =20 Now, for another question. Is there such a thing as a compact oil = filter, that has a remote filter mount available? My old remote filter mount, = and filter is HUGE, and heavy. What are my compact oil filter options? =20 =20 Now, a question primarily for Leon, and Todd- Now that I'm back to my = plan of using the stock pump, and one EWP, I'm trying to sort out the = mounting options. What just occurred to me today, is that I can cut off most of = the inlet pipe on the stock water pump housing, and weld on a flange that = will bolt right to the outlet of the DC EWP. I realize this is a plastic flange, but I don't think it will have any trouble holding the weight of = the pump. I will have to be careful to clamp the inlet hose to the EWP to = an engine part, so it doesn't put any extra strain on the pump. Assuming = all that, do you see anything wrong with this mounting plan? If it looks = too flimsy, I can always add a brace from one of the water pump bolts, to = one of the otherwise useless mounting tabs on the EWP. =20 Thanks, Rusty (wishing some parts had arrived, so I'd have something other than = cowl to work on) =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3D162.358CB580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
You've got it = in the right=20 ball park, Rusty.  I also eliminate the stock cowl air intake = and put=20 my oil scoop there.   See my oil scoop, it is 10.5" wide and = averages=20 2 .5" high for around 26 square inches.  An Aussie, Ian ,appears to = get=20 away with a bit smaller inlet (his the white bird).  I suggest = making the=20 bottom lip with a bit of a smooth airfoil like entrance to ensure that = when you=20 have the nose up in a climb that air will still be induced to flow = around the=20 lip and into your scoop. 
 
Thanks for the = comments, and pics=20 Ed.  I spent some time at the hanger this afternoon, and have = decided that=20 the evap core is somewhere in the top 10 wonders of the = world. =20
 
My Setrab just takes up = too much=20 space (long, and wide, but thin) to be able to fit very.  Since the = bottom=20 of the cowl is curved, the larger foot print of the Setrab lifts it up = higher=20 than the thicker evap core.  I found that I can = slide the=20 3rd evap core just under the starter, and be able to sneak the = exhaust=20 pipes out behind it.  The fittings will even end up being on the = right=20 side, which is perfect.  Mounting it will be a breeze, and even the = scoop=20 won't be that bad to make.  This is just going too well, so I must = be doing=20 something wrong :-)
 
Now, for another question.  Is there = such a thing=20 as a compact oil filter, that has a remote filter mount available?  = My old=20 remote filter mount, and filter is HUGE, and heavy.  What are = my=20 compact oil filter options?  
 
Now, a question primarily for Leon, and Todd- = Now that=20 I'm back to my plan of using the stock pump, and one EWP, I'm trying to = sort out=20 the mounting options.  What just occurred to me today, is that I = can cut=20 off most of the inlet pipe on the stock water pump housing, and weld on = a flange=20 that will bolt right to the outlet of the DC EWP.   I realize = this is=20 a plastic flange, but I don't think it will have any trouble holding the = weight=20 of the pump.  I will have to be careful to clamp the inlet hose to = the EWP=20 to an engine part, so it doesn't put any extra strain on the pump.  = Assuming all that, do you see anything wrong with this mounting = plan?  If=20 it looks too flimsy, I can always add a brace from one of the water pump = bolts,=20 to one of the otherwise useless mounting tabs on the=20 EWP.
 
Thanks,
Rusty (wishing some parts had arrived, so I'd = have=20 something other than cowl to work on)
  
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