X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao101.cox.net ([68.230.241.45] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.4) with ESMTP id 4183128 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:30:08 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.45; envelope-from=rv-4mike@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo02.cox.net ([70.169.32.72]) by fed1rmmtao101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20100330022933.EDXD5695.fed1rmmtao101.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:29:33 -0400 Received: from willsPC ([68.105.86.80]) by fed1rmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id zEVW1d00T1k005Q04EVW9L; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:29:30 -0400 X-VR-Score: -150.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=KqzZVGv1/pIBe+XbL3gCBfL8vaFXECOST7Bs1vfp5Gs= c=1 sm=1 a=zZcljh6C7xsA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=XruvlouZCDbGUgEaRUiNZQ==:17 a=pedpZTtsAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=C1-NbikSELVPfJdfbJQA:9 a=oy48IshIFkRZk2Ow-i4A:7 a=gcNH8x1KttGqMJyBfxj8I5_OoEoA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=eJojReuL3h0A:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=a7G8zQ0EmQ8eTagD:21 a=O6KrEOVrd0N_ppYU:21 a=XruvlouZCDbGUgEaRUiNZQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <11C60EF61A1D4F5894223827E19D85FE@willsPC> From: "Mike Wills" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: FLIGHT DATA 1 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:29:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 I used a couple of short lengths (maybe 2"?) of sched 40 PVC pipe, pipe caps, and brass tubing for the hose connections. I'm not sure that the packing Don used is necessary - the goal is to add some volume to get some damping. A more elegant way would be to electrically filter/damp the MAP sensor outputs, but this is cheap, easy, and works. Mike Wills -------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill Bradburry" Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 9:50 AM To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: FLIGHT DATA 1 > Don, > Thanks for the quick reply. One and a half tenths you say. I suppose it > should be rock steady especially with the engine off. I will have to > check > that. It appears that we could all benefit from trying to remove the > pulses > from the MP line. I will visit Home Depot. > > Bill B > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On > Behalf Of Don Walker > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:36 PM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] FLIGHT DATA 1 > > I have no idea how to compute power at different altitudes and my WAG is > that different props and engines would make any comparison inexact at > best. > Ed probably would know best. > The best way that I know of to determine if you need this is to look at > your > MP on the EM-2 at a steady RPM and see if it varies. Mine varied plus or > minus 1 and a half tenths. If it varies with the engine OFF, you have a > EC-map sensor problem. > I went to Home Depot and got a Zoom oiler from the Swamp cooler > department > or where they sell oil for those of you who are lucky enough to live in > hot > humid places. Probably next to the WD-40. It has a small plastic cap and > a > spout that pulls out Several inches. I cut it off and inserted about 2 > inches of it into the vacuum line going to the map sensor on the EC-2 then > locked it in place using several nylon wire > ties. It's about 1/16th inch ID, I never measured it. Greatly improved > things, on the display and I got more RPMs. Then I made 2 accumulators > using 2 inches of 1/2 ID tubing, rolled up green scubby pad tightly and > inserted it into the tubing. Went to the hardware store and got 4, 1/8th > inch barbed fittings (brass) x 1/4 MPT and inserted it into both sides of > the tubing, hose clamp it tight and inserted it into the vacuum line. > Don't > remember if before or after the restriction. Even better now. Works > great! > Try it! Experiment! I love these cheap, quick hardware store fixes! > > Don Walker > Flying N113BR > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >