X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [216.254.141.183] (HELO mail-08.primus.ca) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.4) with ESMTP id 4181871 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:44:08 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.254.141.183; envelope-from=cbeazley@innovista.net Received: from cpe0015f275ebd6-cm001947577aea.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com ([99.224.67.201] helo=[192.168.0.101]) by mail-08.primus.ca with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nw40r-000267-1m for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:43:33 -0400 Message-ID: <4BB01404.2000109@innovista.net> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:44:20 -0500 From: cbeazley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: P-Port performance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated: cbeazley - cpe0015f275ebd6-cm001947577aea.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com ([192.168.0.101]) [99.224.67.201] Hi George; What is the meaning / origin of the value "176.85" in your "Diameter of Inlet" calculation? You should also try running your calculation with 8000rpm and 120%VE. SAE900032 has a bunch of useful intake and exhaust info including volumetric efficiency charts versus Pport sizes and intake lengths. There are other useful SAE papers that Paul posts on the other list periodically. Cheers Cary > ? > Naturally I take on board all Lynn and Ed say, as they have helped me > understand how things work and Ed with the maths to give a ball park > figure rather than a WAG, on performance. > > So I have condensed the figures Ed gave me a tried to make it as > simple as possible to show others - see attached. I hope this helps > those willing to look into the maths. > > You will notice that the results strongly agree with what Lynn has > stated (in general terms). This in turn strongly agrees with > what powersport was using i.e. 40mm up to 6,000 rpm and 44mm up to > 7,500rpm (checked this with Bill). What Lynn has suggested is 50mm > reduced 15% 42.5mm - hello! I've seen that figure before - dia > required at 7,200 rpm. I also agree with what Lynn suggests on P-port > shapes - I just find round easier to do, so round is probably not > optimum, but good enough for some. > > Some of the Renesis figures I've increased hp in line with compression > increase and rounded off some end result figures. > Hope it helps - it sure helped me. > George ( down under)