Man, that looks like a ton of work! Thanks
for the pics.
Bryan
From: Rotary motors in aircraft
[mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
Behalf Of Dennis Haverlah
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010
10:25 PM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] James Rotary
Cowl for Renesis RV-7A
Bryan,
The front end of the oil and water radiators on my installation are about 6
inches behind the air scoop and about 2 inches above it. My engine
combustion air
is between the front of the radiators and the inlet scoop. After flying I
added a inlet hole in the cowl just below the spinner to feed the combustion
air to the engine. (See attached picture) I fiberglass a divider
between the top of the cooling scoop and the front of the radiators. This
formed a pocket behind the combustion air intake. I mounted a filter box
from a Plymouth Neon above the pocket. Air is fed from the pocket into
the filter than to the throttle body using 3 " Scat tubing. I also
modified the bottom cowl lower surface to force air to flow through the front
end of the radiators. This was necessary because tests with a squirrel
cage blower showed very poor air distribution - at first most of the
cooling air went through the lower rear of the radiators.
Bryan Winberry wrote:
Yeah,
now that you mention it, I think Dennis H. had to put a wall in his inlet.
May have to use a NACA duct or just draw
air from inside cowl.
BW
For myself, I had to separate the air inlets for the
radiator and the oil cooler to get the radiator to work. I use the
left cowl opening for air to the throttle body, although some of this air
also surface cools the engine. I would be concerned that tapping air from the
radiator air scoop *might* divert some air required for cooling or disrupt the airflow
in the duct and ruin the design airflow.
-----Original
Message-----
From: Bryan Winberry <bryanwinberry@bellsouth.net>
To: Rotary motors in
aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tue, Feb 16, 2010 8:32 am
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Air Pump
My plan was to pull from the radiator
scoop of the Sam james rotary cowl. Do you think this area would be
pressurized sufficiently at high speeds? Any significant effect on
radiator performance?
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
On Behalf Of Al Gietzen
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010
11:28 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Air Pump
Before we get too excited about putting
leaf blowers under the cowl; you might consider this. The baseline case
here (no blower) is with the plane standing still with at sharp edge intake at
the TB – correct? Fairly significant inlet pressure loss for that
configuration.
You may get a similar increase in
manifold pressure by putting a nice bell-mouth entrance on the TB. And you will
get a similar increase in manifold pressure with a ram inlet scoop flying at
about 160 Kts.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
On Behalf Of Dennis Haverlah
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010
7:58 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Air Pump
Bill:
Thanks to my younger brother who was brave enough (use younger brothers for
dangerous stuff) to operate the leaf blower I ran the leaf blower test for the
group. I used a fairly new hand held Echo leaf blower Model PB 251
I "borrowed" from my neighbors hangar.
Specs - 25 cc 2 stroke,
Average Air Volume (cfm-pipe)
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Average Air Volume (cfm-housing)
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Maximum Air Speed (mph-pipe)
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No information on rpm's at these data points were listed. I would guess
that the 2 stroke engines are operated between 6000 and
8000 rpm. but I'd like to have real rpm data.
Four tests were conducted as shown below. Local air pressure was 30.2 in
Baro. - 0.5 in for 1000" = 29.7 in hg. air pressure at field
elevation.
Weather was Clear, low humidity and 53 deg. OAT. All tests were at WOT.
Pictures are attached for each test. Note the 180 deg. bend in the Scat
tubing during the (C) test.
The (C) test picture was taken after we had taken the Scat tube but my brother
was holding it in place.
Test condition
Static max. RPM Manifold
Pressure Engine Temp.
(A) Standard intake,
5870
28.9
Barely warm
air filter etc.
(B) W/O air filter &
5660
28.7
Fully
warm
prop blast
(C) Leaf Blower full
5925
29.9
Fully warm
throttle into throttle
body - 180 deg turn.
(D) Same as (A)
5700
29.0
Fully warm
It appears that the blower raised the inlet pressure by 1.2 in Hg. and the
engine rpm increased from 5700 to 5925 rpm.
I needed to turn the mixture knob slightly richer with the blower running to
get max. power.
Also note that the tube feeding the intake had to make a 180 deg. bend just
before the throttle body.
The leaf blower used in this test was the smallest Echo makes.
Their web site lists approximately 15 blowers and the largest is a 63.3 cc 2
stroke as follows:
Average Air Volume (cfm-pipe)
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Average Air Volume (cfm-housing)
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Maximum Air Speed (mph-pipe)
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My thought is that several blowers are available that probably would provide
the needed blower capacity.
I believe we need a system that is adaptable to using Tracy'c RD-1 drive.
I also believe it is not likely a centrifugal blower can be placed between the
engine and gear box because the spacing between the gear box plate and the
engine is about 2.5 inches and the ring gear is approximately in the middle of
the space. If someone is interested in adding a direct drive blower
why not attach it to the rear of the engine with the centrifugal fan attached
to the crankshaft pulley? The fans from the big blowers
may have enough capacity to work at our crankshaft speeds. If this could
be made to work it would fit the majority of the rotary installations and be an
inexpensive way to add More Power Scotty.
PS I have all the power I need with my DIE intake - if someone can find a way
to build it that may solve most of the power needs.
Dennis Haverlah
Bill Bradburry wrote:
Has anybody ever tried hooking up a leaf blower to the
throttle body inlet and see what that would do to the static rpm and manifold
pressure at WOT?