X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net ([204.127.217.105] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTP id 4115228 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:11:34 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.217.105; envelope-from=bbradburry@bellsouth.net Received: from desktop (adsl-230-68-204.mco.bellsouth.net[74.230.68.204]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20100207231056H05008gg9he>; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 23:10:57 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [74.230.68.204] From: "Bill Bradburry" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Only 16 hours Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:10:57 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Thread-Index: AcqoLtnUdLhtbu3+Qdy1pw4B1yUT0wAG33aw Where do you live, Don? What say we swap planes for a year of so....you build mine and I will fly yours! :>) Bill B -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Don Wallker Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 2:50 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Only 16 hours Yeah, I know, only 16 hours. Confession time. I'm much more a builder than a flier. I'm starting to enjoy flying the 8, but I really like building! Going out to the hanger and spending the evening, with a problem in mind to solve and running solutions through my head, in 3D and rotating and changing it (like a mental CAD program) and then figuring out the practicalities of building it with available materials and skills or searching for other materials and others who have the skill and tools. I miss waking up at 2:30 am with a possible solution, writing it down so I can go back to sleep and then trying it out the next day. These night time solutions aren't always correct, but they almost always lead me on to the next step and the next, etc. And then building the thing. Most things I built 3 times before I got it right. When it's right it's RIGHT. Then there is my personality defect. The better is always at war with the good. Defiantly a builder thing and not a flyer thing. It feels great to be new and better and different. And that is just the outcome. The process is fun too. To bad it's a never ending cycle. Not to mention there is a former Tomcat instructor out here with a clip wing Super RV-6 with a dynoed 317 HP IO-540 in it, doing 3000 ft/min on climb out. Not to mention the huge C.S. club he has out front. I'd really like to have something approaching this power and have it done with finesse and expertise rather than money and brute horsepower. I'm not sure if the rotors in the Renesis are 9.7 or 10.0 to 1. My paper work from Bruce says both. I think I need to talk to him about whether the engine will handle it or not. This whole thing is a thought experiment. I figure that to get the NA working better I will have to build a new exhaust and intake. Build it less fancy and more like Tracy's, paying more attention to the inside welding and reducing flow disturbances. If I'm going to all that work, perhaps the thing is to take it to the next level, turbo or even 20B. Major advantages and disadvantages with both routes. Anyone other there have an extra Renesis 4 port lower aluminum intake manifold they want to sell? Don N113BR Flying Renesis powered RV-8, -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html