X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-qy0-f174.google.com ([209.85.221.174] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3c2) with ESMTP id 3984655 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:10:55 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.221.174; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so895540qyk.7 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:10:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1010dDSTcDByI21kLoIOBRlVk+pmX4HLv8eRBnamsuI=; b=A5p7LG2fvC4a2X/+njcC5vpmWClsFtlIrxtVmHbSuqXUhUOjttd1AlkNcJ8UI6E5dj alzZGQYx9XcRFKYS9jZCqV7itJ84/7qGRSSHpStbpshhpqJJ7FAERuFxVBkT6eHkirZl UlGxrTvmLGcx3A14hwmf2H4hL/5CSLcDdNfjI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Gp7+pA2eGVVOMzqqJTtZyGNknbOUlqlszXnCZiHppSIEzJCjLZzQJ1Zme141OquAYH zEOXmvEFGd5gU8l7A57IlpPQkm3fCorRWJ4unpcGYWOUvmWoEfgOJeiEqGv00UzyEKVM AOAW18emdGoaODhe9jL2c34WTiu9Xbv8TVNTU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by 10.224.92.85 with SMTP id q21mr1444280qam.75.1258812620464; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:10:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:10:20 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2a69de77451d27ef Message-ID: <1b4b137c0911210610u1b1f26f5u46476e34d904bb1e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil Pressure From: Tracy Crook To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000feae88ede14e3200478e227c2 --000feae88ede14e3200478e227c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The EM2 has an alarm light driver in it. Any light up to 12V at 350 MA can be used. Definitely recommend hooking it up. Tracy Crook On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Rino wrote: > Thanks for the response guys! > > It was an exiting day to say the least. > At this time of the year there is not a single boat left on the lake so i= t > took some time before being rescued. The firemen came and pulled the pla= ne > to a local marina where I cut the hose fixed it and took off again. I kn= ew > that taking off again without checking the engine was risky but I did not > want to leave the plane along the lake for the winter. I made it ok to t= he > airport, about 10 minutes. The engine turned by hand and had all the > exhaust pulses and it did produced full power as usual. It was a good > takeoff, my first on the water. > > The oil hose broke at the fitting, (it kind of sheared and pulled out of > the fitting) a mechanic said the outer fitting ferrule might have been > pressed too much and had damaged the hose itself. In any case this is n= ot > the type of hose that should be used on an aircraft. I had my douts abou= t > this type of hose. Unfortunately, I was right. > > Now, there is another thing about this hose. It is not very far from the > exhaust stack (I will measure the distance). The other hose that connect > there is coverd with a fire sleeve, plus wrapped in foil, because it is > closer to the exhaust stack. I will have to check that more closely. Di= d > not think of this heat damage possibility before now. > > Yes the oil pressure warning LED will be there on the instrument panel th= e > next time the engine start. > I have Tracy's EM2 and the pressure display flashes when it is low but > there is nothing like a flashing RED light to attract my attention. > > Quite a few lessons learned here and probably more are coming up! > Back to the hangar! > > Rino > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Ed Anderson > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Sent:* Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:35 AM > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Oil Pressure > > Great flying, Rino!! Dead stick landings (having made three in my 10 > years) always get my heart rate up a notch not to mention disappearing se= at > cushions. Fortunately, the rotary has a lot of bearing area and can surv= ive > longer without adequate oil pressure than most engines =96 but, as Lynn s= aid, > tear it down, rebuild it and let us know what you find. > > > > I only use SS braided lines for oil, fuel AND coolant (I know a bit anal = on > the coolant lines being capable of handling 750 psi of coolant pressure), > but I have never had a line break =96 yet. > > > > Needless to say, glad you made it down to the lake safely and both you an= d > the aircraft will fly again. > > > > Welcome to the club {:>) > > > > Ed. > > Ed Anderson > > Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered > > Matthews, NC > > eanderson@carolina.rr.com > > --000feae88ede14e3200478e227c2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The EM2 has an alarm light driver in it.=A0 Any light up to 12V at 350 MA c= an be used. =A0=A0 Definitely recommend hooking it up.

Tracy Crook
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Rino <lacombr@nbnet.nb.c= a> wrote:
Thanks for the response guys!
=A0
It was an exiting day to say the=20 least.
At this time of the year there is not = a single boat=20 left on the lake so it took some time before being rescued.=A0 The firemen= =20 came and pulled the plane to a local marina where I=A0cut the hose fixed it= =20 and took off again.=A0 I knew that taking off again without checking the=20 engine was risky but I did not want to leave the plane along the lake for t= he=20 winter.=A0 I made it ok to the airport, about 10 minutes.=A0 The engine=20 turned by hand and had all the exhaust pulses and it did produced full powe= r as=20 usual.=A0=A0 It was a good takeoff, my first on the water.
=A0
The oil hose broke at the fitting, (it= kind of=20 sheared and pulled out of the fitting) a mechanic said the outer fitting fe= rrule=20 might have been pressed too much and had damaged the hose itself.=A0=A0 In= =20 any case this is not the type of hose that should be used on an aircraft.= =A0=20 I had my douts about this type of hose.=A0 Unfortunately, I was=20 right.
=A0
Now, there is another thing about this= hose. It is=20 not very far from the exhaust stack (I will measure the distance).=A0 The= =20 other hose that connect there is coverd with a fire sleeve, plus wrapped in= =20 foil,=A0because it is closer to the exhaust stack.=A0 I will have to check= =20 that more closely.=A0 Did not think of this heat damage possibility before= =20 now.
=A0
Yes the oil pressure warning LED will = be there on=20 the instrument panel the next time the engine start.
I have Tracy's EM2 and the pressur= e display flashes=20 when it is low but there is nothing like a flashing RED light to attract my= =20 attention.
=A0
Quite a few lessons learned here and p= robably more=20 are coming up!
Back to the hangar!
=A0
Rino
=A0
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ed=20 Anderson
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 = 12:35=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil=20 Pressure

Great flying= ,=20 Rino!!=A0=A0 =A0Dead stick landings (having made three in my 10=20 years) always get my heart rate up a notch not to mention disappearing se= at=20 cushions.=A0 Fortunately, the rotary has a lot of bearing area and can=20 survive longer without adequate oil pressure than most engines =96 but, a= s=20 Lynn said,=20 tear it down, rebuild it and let us know what you=20 find.

=A0

I only use S= S braided=20 lines for oil, fuel AND coolant (I know a bit anal on the coolant lines b= eing=20 capable of handling 750 psi of coolant pressure), but I have never had a = line=20 break =96 yet.

=A0

Needless to = say, glad=20 you made it down to the lake safely and both you and the aircraft will fl= y=20 again.

=A0

Welcome to t= he club=20 {:>)

=A0

Ed.=A0=20

Ed=20 Anderson

Rv-6A N494BW=20 Rotary Powered

Matthews,=20 NC

eanderson@carolina.rr.com


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