X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([69.147.92.121] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with SMTP id 3890118 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:43:22 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.147.92.121; envelope-from=delta11xd@att.net Received: (qmail 68059 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Oct 2009 18:42:47 -0000 Message-ID: <857604.62872.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: TdsYSS4VM1kWfQJXl8EH_jwnYy4zcuyHoRoOKprleGz1KdHO01wIpv.XsNYpMzLIW100Emvi4aq6Hc1t6Ui9NwKpaRJMHMcVownhAq6OZF6egAdOcVMAXNXQa7WIgx_AJHV5rFXsyl_gJdG2nyd8r9pHCWMlCVnyZWxf43tfGtRZB6BU9Amklm.goaVHi8HcrHRMQjM2lJ5Dr1iNZq1fpqxWQlmqpYDEEWgft_RC3b3eSO8NH7pEtN02TDAy9ts1sUXBDGPrBQTQKi03djRZD7j8hQGaLPSZOqMlA01wQBAhxtDAxukcU9lcrFTBtJSr8AKlT6kjFYxCTPvmwVMOGuVUDuoE2w-- Received: from [75.58.118.135] by web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:42:47 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:42:47 -0700 (PDT) From: James Maher Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] IVO Prop brush failure mode To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1834238135-1255891367=:62872" --0-1834238135-1255891367=:62872 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 There is one other failure mode of the IVO prop brushes that all should be = aware of besides wear. At one point I found that my IVO prop no longer would adjust electrically a= nd proceeded to try to determine why. What I found was that one of the brushes was stuck in the holder and not ab= le to slide freely due to some flakes of rust between the brush and the hol= der. The rust flakes came from the springs that provide tension to push the brus= h against the plate. The springs were quite rusty and as a result did not provide enough tension= to overcome the friction caused by the rust in between the bruch and holde= r. There was still plenty of brush length left but they needed to be replace d= ut to the spring failure. So due what you can to protect the brushes (and springs) from the elements = to prevent rusting. =A0 Jim --- On Sun, 10/18/09, DLOMHEIM@aol.com wrote: From: DLOMHEIM@aol.com Subject: [FlyRotary] IVO Prop Question for Chris To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 9:23 AM >I have the=A0IVO Magnum in flight adjustable 3 blade=A0prop with 45 to 105= inch pitch range.=A0 =A0 Chris:=A0 Are you using an ammeter=A0to set you pitch by chance?=A0 If so h= ow much of load is on it at fine vs. coarse pitch settings?=A0=A0Also have = you had to change out your brushes yet?=A0 I am hearing we should expect to= get about 15 hrs. on them before needing to change them out and wondered i= f your ground testing had validated that number yet... =A0 Thanks for the information. =A0 Doug Lomheim RV-9A, 13B, FWF, IVO =A0 =A0 --0-1834238135-1255891367=:62872 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =
 
There is one other failure mode of the IVO prop brushes that all shoul= d be aware of besides wear.
At one point I found that my IVO prop no longer would adjust electrica= lly and proceeded to try to determine why.
What I found was that one of the brushes was stuck in the holder and n= ot able to slide freely due to some flakes of rust between the brush and th= e holder.
The rust flakes came from the springs that provide tension to push the= brush against the plate.
The springs were quite rusty and as a result did not provide enough te= nsion to overcome the friction caused by the rust in between the bruch and = holder.
There was still plenty of brush length left but they needed to be repl= ace dut to the spring failure.
So due what you can to protect the brushes (and springs) from the elem= ents to prevent rusting.
 
Jim
--- On Sun, 10/18/09, DLOMHEIM@aol.com <DLOMHEIM@aol.c= om> wrote:

From: DLOMHEIM@aol.com <DLOMHEIM@aol.com>Subject: [FlyRotary] IVO Prop Question for Chris
To: "Rotary motors in= aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Date: Sunday, October 18,= 2009, 9:23 AM

>I have the IVO Magnum in flight adjustabl= e 3 blade prop with 45 to 105 inch pitch range. 
 
Chris:  Are you using an ammeter to set = you pitch by chance?  If so how much of load is on it at fine vs. coar= se pitch settings?  Also have you had to change out your brushes = yet?  I am hearing we should expect to get about 15 hrs. on them before needing to change them out and wondered if you= r ground testing had validated that number yet...
 
Thanks for the information.
 
Doug Lomheim
RV-9A, 13B, FWF, IVO
 
 
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