Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #48704
From: George Lendich <lendich@aanet.com.au>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: off subject - dyson fan defies physics
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:59:14 +1000
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
 Ed,
I think your right in that their using the principles of Exhaust Augmentation or Inducement (1); coupled with the  correctly shaped airfoil within the shroud/ ring (2).
 
To be fair there are no flan blades in the conventional sense of a fan. The blower/ fan pushes air through the motor ( good point and bonus).
Probably works OK, but a bit gimmicky.
George (down under)

Well, I must confess to being skeptical about such claims and when there appears to be a clear attempt to mislead, it heightens my doubts even more.

 

Here is what I found, first, it DOES have a motor and Fan Blade – so why the claim it is “bladeless” .  They appear to channel air up to the ring and with air flowing from the slits (air motion caused by the fan blades in the base of the unit) causes external air to be channeled along with the fan induced flow.  A Bunsen burner does the same thing in principle the hot exhausting air pulls in fresh air at the base.  Now the real question is how this fan induced flow  is capable of inducting a 15 time greater flow of air.  The principal would appear to be the same as exhaust augmentation with a lot less energy.  So don’t see any deifying of the laws of physics so far.

 

 But,  if it works for the dyson fan, then why not get 15 times {:>) your current cooling air flow sitting on the ground with your engine running?:

 

Dyson unveils blade-free fan

The Dyson fan has a conventional motor and fan blade in the base. The air flows from the base into the upper ring structure. No magic there. The magic is in the ring structure, where the air flows out a slit around the front edge of the ring. Here a process called inducement is put to work. The air flowing out of the slit recruits surrounding air because of the configuration of the slit. So now there is more air flowing through the ring structure than there would be from the base fan alone. Dyson claims that inducement creates a 15x amplification in airflow. Hence the name “Dyson Air Multiplier”.

 

I think I’ll wait a bit before buying stock in the company

 

ed


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of kevin lane
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:18 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] off subject - dyson fan defies physics

 

Ed - I was thinking of all your diagrams on turbulent inlet vent air flows when I saw a diagram of the new dyson fan.  they claim a sort of laser beam air flow capabilities.  I guess it truly is "revolutionary"!    kevin   [maybe my plane doesn't need a propeller]



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