X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3874058 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:46:27 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.121; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from computername ([75.191.186.236]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091004194550957.QTEK19321@cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com> for <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:45:50 +0000 From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Intake runners Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:45:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA4509.C007F690" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcpFDsbCyJZCdDJsTMiQeCDxXwwnwgAGu8Fw In-Reply-To: <list-3873919@logan.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Message-Id: <20091004194550957.QTEK19321@cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA4509.C007F690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My primary runners are 0.049 6063 T832 Drawn alum 1 .25" in diameter. My secondary runners are of the same tubing but 1.5" in diameter. Below is best source for this Drawn aluminum tubing that I found. http://www.texastowers.com/aluminum_.htm In my case I wanted them adjustable by having the top half made of larger tubing - in fact I got the special aluminum tubing used for telescoping antenna elements so the bottom and top would slide together smoothly. If you don't plan to do that then 6061 T6 will work just fine. I cut off the heavy cast aluminum tubing of an 86 N/A upper manifold, milled a shallow recess around the air hole, set the thin lightweight tubing down in it and brazed it with HTS-2000 (the only aluminum brazing rod I've ever had any success with). You could possibly tig weld it - but I had somebody try with a Mig welder and the thin tube and heavy casting (manifold), just didn't come out well. http://www.aluminumrepair.com/ Hope this was helpful Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com <http://www.andersonee.com> http://www.andersonee.com <http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html> http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html http://www.flyrotary.com/ <http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm> http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm <http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html> _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Rino Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 12:21 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Intake runners <http://www.eset.com> Ed Anderson, Ed could you please tell me the diameter of your intake runners, primary and secondary. Thanks Rino __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA4509.C007F690 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <!--[if !mso]> <style> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} </style> <![endif]--><o:SmartTagType namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = name=3D"PersonName"/> <!--[if !mso]> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} p {mso-margin-top-alt:auto; margin-right:0in; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:0in; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} span.EmailStyle18 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.EmailStyle19 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:Arial; color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> </head> <body bgcolor=3Dwhite lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dblue> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>My primary runners are 0.049 6063 = T832 Drawn alum 1 .25” in diameter. My secondary runners = are of the same tubing but 1.5” in diameter. Below is best source = for this Drawn aluminum tubing that I found.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a href=3D"http://www.texastowers.com/aluminum_.htm">http://www.texastowers.= com/aluminum_.htm</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In my case I wanted them adjustable = by having the top half made of larger tubing – in fact I got the = special aluminum tubing used for telescoping antenna elements so the bottom and = top would slide together smoothly. If you don’t plan to do = that then 6061 T6 will work just fine.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I cut off the heavy cast aluminum = tubing of an 86 N/A upper manifold, milled a shallow recess around the air = hole, set the thin lightweight tubing down in it and brazed it with HTS-2000 (the = only aluminum brazing rod I’ve ever had any success with). You = could possibly tig weld it – but I had somebody try with a Mig welder = and the thin tube and heavy casting (manifold), just didn’t come out = well.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a = href=3D"http://www.aluminumrepair.com/">http://www.aluminumrepair.com/</a= ><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hope this was = helpful<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ed <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ed Anderson<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Rv-6A N494BW Rotary = Powered<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Matthews, NC<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;color:navy'>eanderson@carolina.rr.com<o:p></o:p></span>= </font></p> <p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: Arial;color:navy'><a href=3D"http://www.andersonee.com"><span = lang=3DEN>http://www.andersonee.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></= p> <p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: Arial;color:navy'><a = href=3D"http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html"><span lang=3DEN>http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html</span></a><o:p></o:p></sp= an></font></p> <p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a = href=3D"http://www.flyrotary.com/">http://www.flyrotary.com/</a></span></= font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: Arial;color:navy'><a = href=3D"http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm"><span lang=3DEN>http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW</span= ></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: Arial;color:navy'><a = href=3D"http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm">http://www.r= otaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm</a><a href=3D"http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html"></a></span></font><font = size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p= > </div> <div> <div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font = size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1> </span></font></div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font = size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> = <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">Rotary motors in aircraft</st1:PersonName> [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] <b><span = style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Rino<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, October 04, = 2009 12:21 PM<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName = w:st=3D"on">Rotary motors in aircraft</st1:PersonName><br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [FlyRotary] = Intake runners</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><a href=3D"http://www.eset.com"></a></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:navy'>Ed Anderson,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = lang=3DEN style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ed could = you please tell me the diameter of your intake runners, primary and = secondary.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = lang=3DEN style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks</span></fo= nt><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = lang=3DEN style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Rino</span></font= ><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><br> <br> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus = signature database 3267 (20080714) __________<br> <br> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.<br> <br> <a = href=3D"http://www.eset.com">http://www.eset.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></f= ont></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA4509.C007F690--