X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com ([209.85.218.227] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3872095 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 06:28:44 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.218.227; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so837095bwz.19 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 03:28:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qXBVQLyI7WyHPDCTQBlP9n8NY1+7ST7SbTB3CD8vw1c=; b=yAwPuBU7C0jnU2o6PeyaPY9Y0ZiPNb7J1dMTGMreF1nacxHOqOY4WZOM0AhvbH3QKv g4hxcR6OQzqpaSGjPuAwLFdBbzlQlwbHYUxQJI5BIoJ0ApIAZjAv+3wQKBVxQ3L6G/vr 5QfOzD0uEJO2Uzcztrzsxwei5s4TUQGtWvYH8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cCSzZr0gtEV+PZEmr8jn6W0JdGyYyiqzAhFUHavrNnrXj9uaXXW8YmGHJSadtCg3Kc kH1E+REFhUu5e0m/YYrYCftc3DVKKZoBBSqDI5ruomyKradternOHvzv68p0c+yS5i9+ 5DhTIysG8JzPwtekfsicpXQkDxSirxqFm8TSo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.141.21 with SMTP id k21mr1025936bku.124.1254479287683; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 03:28:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:28:07 -0500 Message-ID: <5cf132c0910020328g40a977c0u5d9543b60ca9a2f7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Tangential Muffler From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175d026c520a350474f138cd --0015175d026c520a350474f138cd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 George, Since I already purchased the inconel, I will go ahead and build it and see how it holds up. I think it is thick enough to survive, we'll see. Mark On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Lynn Hanover wrote: > Mark, > Inconel is terrific stuff and expensive and light, but it doesn't last > long, ask the racing crowd. The heat cycling kills it. > Stick to SS. > George ( down under) > > The cracking in racing exhaust systems is due to the paper thin sections > used for light weight. In this picture the box contains the redish rust > colored mild steel .120" wall bends. The darker colored tubes are Inconel > with each bend made of two stamped halves welded together. So the walls > around the bends stay the same thickness as straight sections. They are sold > for $15.00 per box, used. The complete header set with collector and waste > gate exhaust is discarded after 3 heat cycles. They are fun to look at, but > only good for cutting up into shielding or the like. It is easy to weld > (TIG) with stainless filler rod. > > Holds a chrome like polish job until heated. > > In very thin wall operates at bright orange with no problems (for three > heat cycles). > > In thicker wall would outlast any stainless. > > Works and welds like stainless. The only downside is cost. Just about have > to get it as surplus or used. > > On the right is a used 12-A race engine with a dry sump oil system. Two > scavenge out fittings in the front cover and a flat plate instead of a oil > pan. > > Lynn E. Hanover > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > --0015175d026c520a350474f138cd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
George,
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Since I already=A0purchased the inconel, I will go ahead and build it = and see how it holds up.=A0 I think it is thick enough to survive, we'l= l see.
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Mark


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On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Lynn Hanover <lehanover@gmail.c= om> wrote:
=A0Mark,
Inconel is terrific stuff and expensiv= e and light, but it doesn't last long, ask the racing crowd. The heat c= ycling kills it.
Stick to SS.
George ( down under)
=A0
The cracking in racing exhaust systems is due to the paper thin sectio= ns used for light weight. In this picture the box contains the redish rust = colored mild steel .120" wall bends. The darker colored tubes are Inco= nel with each bend made of two stamped halves welded together. So the walls= around the bends stay the same thickness as straight sections. They are so= ld for $15.00 per box, used. The complete header set with collector and was= te gate exhaust is discarded after 3 heat cycles. They are fun to look at, = but only good for cutting up into shielding or the like. It is easy to weld= (TIG) with stainless filler rod.
=A0
Holds a chrome like polish job until heated.
=A0
In very thin wall operates at bright orange with no problems (for thre= e heat cycles).
=A0
In thicker wall would outlast any stainless.=A0
=A0
Works and welds like stainless. The only downside is cost. Just about = have to get it as surplus or used.
=A0
On the right is a used 12-A race engine with a dry sump oil system. Tw= o scavenge out fittings in the front cover and a flat plate=A0instead of a = oil pan.=A0
=A0
Lynn E. Hanover=A0

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