X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com ([208.47.184.3] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3871707 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:11:56 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=208.47.184.3; envelope-from=candtmallory@embarqmail.com Return-Path: DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1254438682; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=Lbjp21pfNhemdtuSqxLIHKpX6nQ=; b=HsnxZkeO4RTTiiTa9/epGz4kTcliWJgCHXbCCRs16Ki9GmKa+Aa0QnQTWt6uXwAg jyZAW1/ZGFmHmfb/T3PUUXQBeuJ1zV3ldpsFznCgAFXDPkP1wMhRoDy9ml7GCstp; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=4jraHwQkAAAA:8 a=Hl1Gy0H5AAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=YdlCwlLHAAAA:8 a=Mrpg2QM9AAAA:20 a=QMyfuycdFM1Z1VUZxZcA:9 a=KIBtT2xpeLs-YX3qqOQA:7 a=00KKHEcPM5c9aNUUwDQp3W0Sk50A:4 a=1itpubgL9GIA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=nl_73-6FQmUA:10 a=OUvQDCsInOcxcYOK:21 a=H7CZlwq3Nxmqsg-U:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=Y2VNeNrzAAAA:8 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=TW66zc2HAAAA:8 a=HQ31llbKAAAA:8 a=3BLX96bwlklzkeC7rUYA:9 a=gK7AsRz_70otgeoMIEwA:7 a=Dd6qXTVmaVHRSKraTCsT25qFZOcA:4 a=iQNCYRf3kIe1faVK:21 a=-B5Xj5Q0XmtIIquO:21 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=candtmallory@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [76.3.94.205] ([76.3.94.205:14916] helo=AcerPC) by mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTPA id E7/86-04268-91735CA4; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:11:22 -0400 From: "Chris and Terria" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Quiet is Deafening Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:11:12 -0400 Message-ID: <004e01ca42ec$7824e780$686eb680$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004F_01CA42CA.F1134780" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcpC65/Y6Ggs7BlDQPKW21tD1XSmlgAAMivg Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01CA42CA.F1134780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I like it. It looks a lot like mineJ Chris From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of stevei@carey.asn.au Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:04 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Quiet is Deafening Hi Guys Ian's email address is Ian Beadle I forwarded your question to him. Ian uses some kind of muffler but also reduces his oulet pipe down very small as it exits the cowl, from memory perhaps 1.5". We plan to reduce our outlet down to 1.75" and see that does. Steve Izett Perth Western Australia Building Glasair SIIRG Renesis 4 Port RD1C EC2 EM3 On 2/10/09 6:40 AM, "George Lendich" wrote: Ian's e-mail bounced back to me - he must have a new address. George ( down under) I sent him an e-mail, I hope he has the same address. George ( down under) I found where Ian was on this list back in '05. He unsubscribed then. I tried to send an msg to him at that old address. It just bounced back so if anyone can inquire of him I would like to know what he did to muffle his RV7. Bill B _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:13 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Quiet is Deafening If you want to have a quiet rotary powered plane, you need to get someone in Australia to talk with Ian Beadle to see what he has done with his RV6 powered with a Renesis. This plane is quiet! I don't know where Bindoon is located.. Bindoon Western Australia Melanie takes flight in Ian Beadle RX8 rotary engine powered RV6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ4NqGv6SwQ &feature=related Bill B _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mark Steitle Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:36 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Quiet is Deafening Kelly, You just need to fly at Mach 1 so you stay ahead of the sound. ;-) Can anyone report on the effectiveness of the tangential muffler in actual real world situations? (As I recall Al G. is running a tangential muffler on his Velocity.) I ask because I'm in the process of building one for my Lancair with the hopes that it will work better than the DNA muffler that I'm currently running. I think it will work better at reducing the noise level in the cabin, but at what cost to power? Hopefully, this will save me the cost of a new Zulu ANR headset. Comments appreciated. Mark S. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Mike Wills wrote: Kelly, If you think the quiet is deafening go fly behind a rotary - now thats deafening! Mike Wills RV-4 N144MW ----- Original Message ----- From: Kelly Troyer To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:15 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Quiet is Deafening Anyone out there ??.....................<:) -- Kelly Troyer "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold -------------- Original message from "Patrick Panzera" : -------------- Hey gang! I came across a rare find this weekend. Any serious rotorhead will certainly appreciate this. Bluelines from 1973 of the General Motors Wankel Rotary engine. I just put them up on eBay http://tinyurl.com/GM-Rotary-drawings Pat -- This message has been checked by ESVA and is believed to be clean. _____ The contents of this email are confidential and intended only for the named recipients of this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, you are hereby notified that any use, reproduction, disclosure or distribution or the information contained in this e-mail is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately and then delete/destroy the e-mail and any printed copies. All liability for viruses is excluded to the fullest extent of the law. ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01CA42CA.F1134780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Quiet is Deafening

I like it.  It looks a lot like mineJ

 

Chris

 

From:= Rotary = motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = stevei@carey.asn.au
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:04 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Quiet is Deafening

 

Hi Guys

Ian’s email address is Ian Beadle <iwbeadle@iinet.net.au>
I forwarded your question to him.
Ian uses some kind of muffler but also reduces his oulet pipe down very = small as it exits the cowl, from memory perhaps 1.5”.
We plan to reduce our outlet down to 1.75” and see that does.

Steve Izett
Perth Western Australia
Building Glasair SIIRG Renesis 4 Port RD1C EC2 EM3


On 2/10/09 6:40 AM, "George Lendich" <lendich@aanet.com.au> = wrote:

Ian's e-mail bounced back to me - he must have a new address.
George ( down under)


I sent him an e-mail, I hope he has the same  address.

George ( down under)


 
 
 
 

I found where Ian was on this list back in  ’05. =  He unsubscribed then.  I tried to send an msg to him at that  old address.  It just bounced back so if anyone can inquire of him I  would like to know what he did to muffle his  RV7.



Bill B

 



From:= =  Rotary motors in aircraft  [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironlin= e.net] On  Behalf Of Bill Bradburry
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:13  PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Quiet is  Deafening

 

If you want to have a quiet rotary powered  plane, you need = to get someone in Australia to talk with Ian Beadle  to see what he has = done with his RV6 powered with a  Renesis.

This plane is quiet!  I don’t know where  Bindoon = is located….



Bindoon Western Australia  Melanie takes flight in Ian Beadle RX8 rotary = engine powered  RV6



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuZ4NqGv6SwQ&feature=3Drelated=



Bill B



 



From:= =  Rotary motors in aircraft  [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironlin= e.net] On  Behalf Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:36  AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Quiet is  Deafening

 

Kelly,

 



 

You just need to fly at Mach 1 so you stay ahead of  the = sound.  ;-)

 



 

Can anyone report on the effectiveness of the  tangential = muffler in actual real world situations?  (As I recall Al G.  is = running a tangential muffler on his Velocity.)  I ask because I'm in =  the process of building one for my Lancair with the hopes that it will work  better than the DNA muffler that I'm currently running.  I = think it  will work better at reducing the noise level in the cabin, but at = what cost  to power?  Hopefully, this will save me the cost of a new = Zulu ANR  headset.  Comments appreciated.

 



 

Mark  S.

 

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Mike Wills <rv-4mike@cox.net>  wrote:

 
 

Kelly,

 



 

If you think the quiet is  deafening go fly behind a rotary - now thats  deafening!

 



 

Mike  Wills

 

RV-4  N144MW


 
 

----- Original Message -----  

 

From:<= /b> Kelly =  Troyer <mailto:keltro@att.net> =  

 

To: Rotary = motors in  aircraft <mailto:flyrotary@lancaironlin= e.net>  

 
 

Sent:<= /b> =  Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:15 AM

 

Subject: =  [FlyRotary] Quiet is Deafening

 



 

Anyone out there  ??.....................<:)

 

--
Kelly  Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2  
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold  


 



-------------- Original message from "Patrick =  Panzera" <panzera@experimental-aviation.= com>: --------------  

 

Hey  gang!





I came across a  rare find this weekend.


Any serious  rotorhead will certainly appreciate = this.





Bluelines from  1973 of the General Motors Wankel = Rotary  engine.





I just put them  up on eBay





http://tinyurl.com/GM-Rota= ry-drawings





Pat




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