X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com ([209.85.218.227] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3871566 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:34:23 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.218.227; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so457141bwz.19 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:33:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Y+XxNd0fAcNxDquxxnIc8bAAOwunhSABhUyrq3w7Sic=; b=rcE51b8G7rTJRhJDBgdA322QxWuZaLrFmH7j1C027KGakO1sxsYoVq+nRZ8khASHGI XpUIuo3SolX4ssjMrd4sLAnwpLz2Ou8C7163VPpxXY1NhENQZTqgljjIQq2YCf17nstM DnjSVcq/T6wgtOr+xBEywsZAv3WjjJieE7I2o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tsKvTjI6uLyai6r0iI9VtVyZl/xH8667SJBF7eIZ9Fr+nbXGnj6ix/BjXvblsazcqt BmC4lMur3a+WiKZThHMZTWLrIQfVY8QJMhOkLj4fzZT7/zoqSAxU+o4wA6Rz8gCm1BwM odaWVufqhvJBxUqpsJbxf4SG6Xpuf2xL2Mw4c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.24.143 with SMTP id v15mr324795bkb.182.1254429227959; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:33:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:33:47 -0500 Message-ID: <5cf132c0910011333r5c3e380dk524bdb58b718435d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Aussie Muffler ... was Quiet is Deafening From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555950e87450b0474e5907d --00032555950e87450b0474e5907d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Due to the side exhaust ports, the Renesis is much quieter than the 13B which is quieter than the 20B. From the video, it appears that he's runnin= g a HushPower II mounted on the belly. I tried a HPII, it lasted about 10 hours. Part of the reason it didn't last very long was that it was much closer to the ports, therefore subject to much more heat and sonic blast. I haven't reached the point that I'm willing to hang the muffler on the belly... yet. Mark S. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Jeff Whaley wrote: > Yes, as in how long did his muffler last? At what hp loss if any? > > Jeff > > > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *O= n > Behalf Of *Bill Monroe > *Sent:* Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:48 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Quiet is Deafening > > > > OMG that thing **IS** quiet! > > > > We must know more=85.. > > > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *O= n > Behalf Of *Bill Bradburry > *Sent:* Thursday, October 01, 2009 12:13 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Quiet is Deafening > > > > If you want to have a quiet rotary powered plane, you need to get someon= e > in Australia to talk with Ian Beadle to see what he has done with his RV6 > powered with a Renesis. > > This plane is quiet! I don=92t know where Bindoon is located=85. > > > > Bindoon Western Australia Melanie takes flight in Ian Beadle RX8 rotary > engine powered RV6 > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuZ4NqGv6SwQ&feature=3Drelated > > > > Bill B > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *O= n > Behalf Of *Mark Steitle > *Sent:* Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:36 AM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Quiet is Deafening > > Kelly, > > > > You just need to fly at Mach 1 so you stay ahead of the sound. ;-) > > > > Can anyone report on the effectiveness of the tangential muffler in actua= l > real world situations? (As I recall Al G. is running a tangential muffle= r > on his Velocity.) I ask because I'm in the process of building one for m= y > Lancair with the hopes that it will work better than the DNA muffler that > I'm currently running. I think it will work better at reducing the noise > level in the cabin, but at what cost to power? Hopefully, this will save= me > the cost of a new Zulu ANR headset. Comments appreciated. > > > > Mark S. > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Mike Wills wrote: > > Kelly, > > > > If you think the quiet is deafening go fly behind a rotary - now thats > deafening! > > > > Mike Wills > > RV-4 N144MW > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Kelly Troyer > > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:15 AM > > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Quiet is Deafening > > > > Anyone out there ??.....................<:) > > -- > Kelly Troyer > "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 > "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold > > > > -------------- Original message from "Patrick Panzera" < > panzera@experimental-aviation.com>: -------------- > > Hey gang! > > > > I came across a rare find this weekend. > > Any serious rotorhead will certainly appreciate this. > > > > Bluelines from 1973 of the General Motors Wankel Rotary engine. > > > > I just put them up on eBay > > > > http://tinyurl.com/GM-Rotary-drawings > > > > Pat > > > > > --00032555950e87450b0474e5907d Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Due to the side exhaust ports, the Renesis is much quieter than the 13= B which is quieter than the 20B.=A0 From the video, it appears that he'= s running a HushPower II mounted on the belly.=A0 I tried a HPII, it lasted= about 10 hours.=A0 Part of the reason it didn't last very long was tha= t it was much closer to the ports, therefore subject to much more heat and = sonic blast.=A0
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I=A0haven't reached=A0the point that I'm willing to hang the m= uffler on the belly... yet.
Mark S.
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Jeff Whaley <jwhaley@datacast.= com> wrote:

Yes, as in how long did = his muffler last? At what hp loss if any?

Jeff

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From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of Bill Monroe
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:48 PM
To: Rotary motors= in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Quiet is Deafening

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OMG=A0 that thing *IS= * quiet!

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We must know more=85..

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From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:= flyrotary@= lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 12:13 PM
To: Rotary motor= s in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Quiet is Deafening<= /p>

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=A0If you want to have a quiet rotary power= ed plane, you need to get someone in Australia to talk with Ian Beadle to s= ee what he has done with his RV6 powered with a Renesis.

This plane is quiet!=A0 I don=92t know wher= e Bindoon is located=85.

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Bindoon Western Australia Melanie takes flight in Ian Beadle RX8 rota= ry engine powered RV6

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http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DuZ4NqGv6SwQ&feature=3Drelated

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Bill B

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= From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf= Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:36 AM
To: Rotary motor= s in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Quiet is Deafening<= /p>

Kelly,

=A0

You just need to fly at Mach 1 so you stay = ahead of the sound.=A0 ;-)

=A0

Can anyone report on the effectiveness of t= he tangential muffler in actual real world situations?=A0 (As I recall Al G= . is running a tangential muffler on his Velocity.)=A0 I ask because I'= m in the process of building one for my Lancair with the hopes that it will= work better than the DNA muffler that I'm currently running.=A0 I thin= k it will work better at reducing the noise level in the cabin, but at what= cost to power?=A0 Hopefully, this will save me the cost of a new Zulu ANR = headset.=A0 Comments appreciated.

=A0

Mar= k S.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Mike Will= s <rv-4mike@cox.ne= t> wrote:

Kelly,

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=A0If you t= hink the quiet is deafening go fly behind a rotary - now thats deafening!

=A0

Mike Wills

RV-4 N144MW

----- Origi= nal Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:15= AM

Subject:= [FlyRotary] Quiet is Deafening<= /span>

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Anyone out there ??.....................<= ;:)

--<= br>Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS&= quot;_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

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---= ----------- Original message from "Patrick Panzera" <panzera@exp= erimental-aviation.com>: --------------

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http:= //tinyurl.com/GM-Rotary-drawings

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