X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net ([207.115.11.55] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3861074 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:52:05 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.115.11.55; envelope-from=bbradburry@bellsouth.net Received: from desktop (adsl-157-63-231.mco.bellsouth.net[68.157.63.231]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20090921155128H05005mavhe>; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:51:28 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.157.63.231] From: "Bill Bradburry" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Progress report from Houston Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:51:33 -0400 Message-ID: <82DDF7A21F7C4490B62F042A1C92A58E@Desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA3AB1.DDEA4260" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Aco60M7DZf4dUAnxQ1SoPZImepIaJQAAZKtg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA3AB1.DDEA4260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Mark, I found this msg when I was going back thru your msgs looking for your coolant and oil temps. I didn't find anything recent and they were 195-193. What is happening now? Also I found where you got an additional 11 mph out of your cowl flap. That started me thinking.what did you change from to the cowl flap? If you just added the flap, with it closed, your configuration would be the same as before the flap.??? I plan to copy your flap, but not till I get my cooling changes done and see what happens with those before I add the extra exit opening. Last I heard, you had about 140 hrs. Have you had any SAG yet? Bill B _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mark Steitle Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:32 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Progress report from Houston Bill, I just ran a separate ground wire from one of the screws on the instrument sub-panel to the forest of tabs. It makes a lot of sense as the sub panel is mounted on a fiberglass frame, essentially insulating it from the rest of the airplane. Who knows how the ground path was completed. It probably wouldn't have hurt a thing to do the same with the other two sub panels. Mark On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Bill Bradburry wrote: Mark, I copied the below from an msg from you last Oct.. Which pin on the PCM did you connect to ground? The only pin I can find in the instructions for the PCM that is identified as ground is pin 1 which is called out to be connected to pin 16 on the Controller? Did you splice this wire to ground or did you connect a different pin on the PCM? " Keep in mind that I had some data corruption problems similar to Al Gietzen. It seems to be a problem with fiberglass airplanes, so don't be surprised if you experience this too. With me, it always happened while on the ground. Last time it happened, I looked at each of the 3 tables and saw that only one was actually corrupted, so it is possible that it may have happened in the air, but since I was running above 3800 rpm (and operating in the upper table), I didn't notice any difference. Nobody really knows what causes this problem, but I seem to have fixed it by running a separate ground from the PCM to the forest-of-tabs ground. The thought was that the sub-panel was mounted on a fiberglass frame and therefore was isolated from ground. I have not had an episode since I added the ground." Bill B ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA3AB1.DDEA4260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks Mark,

 

I found this msg when I was going back thru your msgs looking = for your coolant and oil temps.  I didn’t find anything recent and = they were 195-193.  What is happening now?  Also I found where you got = an additional 11 mph out of your cowl flap.  That started me = thinking…what did you change from to the cowl flap?  If you just added the flap, = with it closed, your configuration would be the same as before the = flap…???

I plan to copy your flap, but not till I get my cooling changes = done and see what happens with those before I add the extra exit opening. =  

Last I heard, you had about 140 hrs.  Have you had any SAG = yet?

Bill B

 


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Monday, September = 21, 2009 11:32 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Progress report from Houston

Bill,

 

I just ran a separate ground wire from one of the screws on = the instrument sub-panel to the forest of tabs.  It makes a lot of = sense as the sub panel is mounted on a fiberglass frame, essentially insulating = it from the rest of the airplane.  Who knows how the ground path = was completed.  It probably wouldn't have hurt a thing to do the same = with the other two sub panels.    

 

Mark 

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>= wrote:

 Mark,

I copied the below from an msg from you last Oct..  Which pin on the PCM did you connect to ground?  The only pin I can find in the instructions for = the PCM that is identified as ground is pin 1 which is called out to be = connected to pin 16 on the Controller?  Did you splice this wire to ground or = did you connect a different pin on the PCM?

 

“  Keep in mind that I had some data corruption problems similar to = Al Gietzen.  It seems to be a problem with fiberglass airplanes, so = don't be surprised if you experience this too.  With me, it always  = happened while on the ground.  Last time it happened, I looked at each of = the 3 tables and saw that only one was actually corrupted, so it is possible = that it may have happened in the air, but since I was running above 3800 rpm = (and operating in the upper table), I didn't notice any difference.  = Nobody really knows what causes this problem, but I seem to have fixed it by = running a separate ground from the PCM to the forest-of-tabs ground.  The = thought was that the sub-panel was mounted on a fiberglass frame and therefore = was isolated from ground.  I have not had an episode since I added the ground.”

 

Bill B

 

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