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Steve,
I am running Lycoming O-320 E2D 150 hp and I can find other engines as
required.
Best Regards,
Alain
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From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On
Behalf Of Steve Thomas
Sent: September 17, 2009 1:34 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Vinyl Ester tanks
Alain,
What engine are you running? I will mention you the next time I talk
to him.
Best Regards,
Steve Thomas
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On Sep 17, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Alain Ouellet wrote:
> Steve,
>
> If your fellow is interested to have someone test his fuel in
> operation.
>
> I could probably arrange to have it done, let me know and/or he can
> contact
> me
> thru a direct e-mail and we can go from there.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Alain
>
> Alain Ouellet
> 905-458-5424
> mailto:aouellet@icecanada.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On
> Behalf Of Steve Thomas
> Sent: September 17, 2009 9:51 AM
> To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Vinyl Ester tanks
>
>
> George,
>
> According to the information I have, butanol is not corrosive due to
> its larger hydrocarbon chain. Check out the following link:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butanol_fuel
>
> I recently spoke with a fellow that is trying to develop a biobutanol
> factory to produce it from biomass, mostly waste product and not
> foodstuffs. He wants me to test his fuel. Not likely, as flying for
> the first time has enough uncertainty without adding unnecessary
> variables. But, it does have promise.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Steve Thomas
> _______________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2009, at 12:42 AM, George Lendich wrote:
>
>> Steve doesn't it go Methanol, Ethanol, Butanol in the BTU rating -
>> isn't it still a alcohol and isn't alcohol the thing that kills
>> epoxy?
>> George ( down under)
>>
>>> (sorry, but the chart mentioned below is too big. If you want a
>>> copy, let me know and I'll email direct.)
>>>
>>> Yes, but there are many formulations of vinyl ester. My entire
>>> airplane is made from vinyl ester, including the wet-wing gas
>>> tanks. The formula used from the factory was Derakane 411-45. I
>>> switched to Derakane 411-350 some time later as it was a little
>>> more viscous and wetted out better. It was also easier to get.
>>> However, if you look at the attached Derakane Chemical Resistance
>>> Guide, the 411 series is not recommended for gasohol
>>> concentrations greater than 10% ethanol. Since I cannot do
>>> anything about my tanks at this point, I am forced to live with
>>> the limitations of Derakane 411.
>>>
>>> I don't know what the specifications are on the fiberglast resins,
>>> but those who use it ought to know. For me, E85 is clearly not in
>>> the cards. Another possible option is butanol. There are some who
>>> are experimenting with butanol as a 100% replacement for 100LL.
>>> It has nearly the same octane rating as 100LL, and about 90% of
>>> the total energy, per gallon, of gasoline. Ethanol only has about
>>> 60% of the energy, per gallon, of gasoline. And butanol does
>>> require a different air-fuel ratio. It is also not corrosive in
>>> the same way as ethanol.
>>>
>>> So, my concern remains. It looks like using gasohol with a 10%
>>> lace of ethanol will be OK. More than that, I'll be switching to
>>> 100LL.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Steve Thomas
>>> _______________________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 4, 2009, at 11:32 AM, Lynn Hanover wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or, what are the tanks holding E-85 made out of? About 75% alcohol
>>>> .All of the underground fuel tanks are now Vinyl Ester.
>>>>
>>>> Lynn E. Hanover
>>>
>>>
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