X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com ([74.125.92.25] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3856296 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:27:06 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.125.92.25; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so1560096qwe.25 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:26:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sKTkXPc4Bc2HnKiQhN37rSFLnrC2xZPNfRjEMHQwVaU=; b=I6Z0ZyYRaiCdleUm6mRKRdV8HeacUDiPXyzsQ4S4KdNypyEyhYV1qHKSKkGwUfFB4x fX4Q7p6S4iu67//QStrO6Xswqy0/ByCin6qzI4XXwRfmxW/37uMakPQb4C5BPyNwiA+D ys9MccKp1XJOOXSnlZeeZ55uptRM4T5ZD1N44= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=cXiMeO9Bcrlv0+cKKhju4BGHKUkdj7o35r7hY0ZApz6qqiY2pn5Qzhy06UIJMu7rUs wb5fFXxxL8E00jjKKZ+C66qWx+hRaKGxbQg8uP45ohwtJ/pGQFTZQbvJr6wPYdnOvI9l n72j93xyzV4DQtU5VE2X9PVeaCoBl4DhcBmmE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by 10.224.13.19 with SMTP id z19mr7721901qaz.242.1253132792022; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:26:31 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2dda23b066272c39 Message-ID: <1b4b137c0909161326g1cbc7ac3g80c0f722b49633f6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re RV-8 cooling test From: Tracy Crook To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636027882ecd03f0473b7b6e4 --001636027882ecd03f0473b7b6e4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Been thinking over what to do about the cooling on the 20B rotary powered RV-8. The indications are that I'm getting too much pressure under the cowl but that was only a guess. Without doing a number of time consuming pressure surveys or chopping up the cowl there was no way to be sure it was not something else like too small oil cooler and radiator, inlet diffusers not working as well as I had hoped, inlet shape not right (they had very sharp lips which might be causing separation) or some other unknown. Time is limited before I leave on vacation and I really needed to know the answer before I do. So, last night I made the decision to fly the -8 one more time - This time Without the cowl on. Secured anything that might get blown loose with tie wraps and did the deed. Whoo Hoo! Oil temp 147, coolant temp 161. This on a hot day (92 deg OAT). Obvious conclusion is that I need a better path for the air to leave the cowl. Have read with interest the results of some Lycoming RVs with high oil temps that fixed the problem with louvers on bottom of cowl. Some say they worked great, others had less than good results so not sure that is the answer but ordered a set if nothing else occures to me.. The airplane felt a little draggier , down about 15 MPH at the low throttle setting I used for test so this should be a worst case test. The wheel pants and main gear intersection fairings are also off. Did some brief full throttle climbs and temps stayed under control, oil never exceeding 160 F. Climb is awesome with a deck angle so high it was uncomfortable. Was looking hard at temps so did not note the ROC but it was more than anything else I've flown. My 13B powered RV-4 does 2500 FPM on a standard day. Tracy Crook --001636027882ecd03f0473b7b6e4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Been thinking over what to do about the= cooling on the 20B rotary powered RV-8.=A0 The indications are that I'= m getting too much pressure under the cowl but that was only a guess.=A0 Wi= thout doing a number of time consuming pressure surveys or chopping up the = cowl there was no way to be sure it was not something else like too small o= il cooler and radiator,=A0 inlet diffusers not working as well as I had hop= ed, inlet shape not right (they had very sharp lips which might be causing = separation) or some other unknown.

Time is limited before I leave on vacation and I really needed to know = the answer before I do.=A0 So, last night I made the decision to fly the -8= one more time - This time Without the cowl on.

=A0Secured anything= that might get blown loose with tie wraps and did the deed.=A0 Whoo Hoo! O= il temp 147, coolant temp 161.=A0 This on a hot day (92 deg OAT).=A0=A0 Obv= ious conclusion is that I need a better path for the air to leave the cowl.= =A0=A0 Have read with interest the results of some Lycoming RVs with high o= il temps that fixed the problem with louvers on bottom of cowl.=A0 Some say= they worked great, others had less than good results so not sure that is t= he answer but ordered a set if nothing else occures to me..

The airplane felt a little draggier ,=A0 down about 15 MPH at the low t= hrottle setting I used for test so this should be a worst case test.=A0 The= wheel pants and main gear intersection fairings are also off.=A0=A0 Did so= me brief full throttle climbs and temps stayed under control, oil never exc= eeding 160 F.=A0 Climb is awesome with a deck angle so high it was uncomfor= table.=A0 Was looking hard at temps so did not note the ROC but it was more= than anything else I've flown.=A0 My 13B powered=A0 RV-4 does 2500 FPM= on a standard day.

Tracy Crook
--001636027882ecd03f0473b7b6e4--