Received-SPF: pass
 receiver=logan.com; client-ip=4.59.182.110; envelope-from=lacombr@nbnet.nb.ca
Message-ID: <F65ABA09DD174A0D868E8C8740DCE07B@PCdeRita>
From: "Rino" <lacombr@nbnet.nb.ca>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
References: <list-3784013@logan.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-3784013@logan.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Just livid.....but think anyway.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:51:54 -0300
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
	format=flowed;
	charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Chris,

I have an old EC2 in working condition.  It was used to run the 13b engine. 
When I changed engines for the Renesis, I could not run it with the EC2 
because of the crank angle sensor difference. So I got the EC3 and that 
solved my problem.  The EC2 was running fine with the 13b engine.

Rino


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:25 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Just livid.....but think anyway.


> Jeff makes an excellent point.  I also just unscrew the lid and carefully
> wrap it in Anti static plastic, pad it well in a box with bubble wrap and
> ship that - I leave the case (as does Jeff) attached - makes the "hell 
> hole"
> less hellish.
>
> Ed
>
> Ed Anderson
>
> Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
>
> Matthews, NC
>
> eanderson@carolina.rr.com
>
> http://www.andersonee.com
>
> http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
>
> http://www.flyrotary.com/
>
> http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
>
> http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
> Behalf Of Christopher Barber
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:07 PM
> To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Just livid.....but think anyway.
>
> Thanks Ed and Bob,
>
> The insight is appreciated.  Every experience educates me more.  To
> paraphrase John Slade, if the me of five years ago could see the me of
> today, he would be impressed by my knowledge....even with this type of
> trouble.  I am more confidant of my knowledge and better yet, my ability
> to more truly understand.  Thanks for breaking it down so clearly.
>
> When I post my questions and/or share my experience it is reassuring
> that while I may receive a couple of (hopefully well meaning) knocks, I
> am always quite certain I will get solid information that actually
> helps, educates and moves the process along.  Even when a complete
> answer is impossible, it almost always gives a starting point.
>
> Yes, Ed, I am all for it breaking on the ground.  Keeps it as a mere
> frustration.
>
> So, back into the "hell whole" to remove and ship my ECU.
>
> All the best,
>
> Chris
> Houston
>
> Bob White wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> Ed painted a pretty clear picture of why your serial link may be out.
>> I think one point Tracy made about the problem needs to be emphasized.
>> Without the serial link, you can't read anything from the EC2.  The MAP
>> may or may not be flat lined, and you may or may not be making changes
>> to it.  Without the serial link, you just aren't getting any data from
>> the EC2 to the EM2.  You may be getting RPM and fuel flow readings as
>> that data is read from the pulse to the rotor 1 primary fuel injector.
>>
>> If the serial link were working, it would only provide MAP data from
>> the A controller.
>>
>> Bob W.
>>
>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:20:33 -0500
>> Christopher Barber <CBarber@TexasAttorney.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I made it out to the hangar tonight and attempted to reset the EM2.  No
>>> joy.  It would not reset and I could not get it to accept any changes in
>>> the MAP table.  It is all flat lined.
>>>
>>> I will likely not get a chance to further investigate wires until I am
>>> off on Friday.  I did not see anything obvious other than the ground
>>> wire that was broken but I shall  investigate much  further.  Of course
>>> I am bothered but perhaps more concerned as to the why.  I do not want
>>> to send the unit back to Tracy again, just to hook it up and it blow
>>> again.  As I mentioned, the engine was running really well before I
>>> started concentrating on the planes finish.  I felt pretty good that
>>> after a couple of big set backs over the last two year that I was
>>> finally on track.  As a matter of fact, I felt this has been the first
>>> time I have actually been able to use the EM2/EC2 as it should be used
>>> since I can't blame the EC2 for coolant in my rotor housing or bad
>>> Jeffco in the tanks.
>>>
>>> So, to maybe ask a couple of obvious questions....could the one bad
>>> thick ground wire breaking completely "toast' the EC2?   I  know it is
>>> difficult to make hard and fast rules, but this seems pretty
>>> catastrophic for a single wire break. <yikes>  Also, if I change to
>>> Controller B, will I be looking at the MAP table for the B controller?
>>> (if this is flagrantly stated in the manual, I have read past it as I
>>> focused on other issues).  Okay, I have a few more questions, but my
>>> brain is a bit too fried/disappointed to form them right now. <sigh
> again>
>>>
>>> So, uh, Tracy, do you have an old EC2 laying around I could buy, that
>>> way I can be trashing/working on one while your repair the other.  I am
>>> not kidding, you have any old stock of EC2's?
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>> Houston
>>>
>>> --
>>> Homepage:  http://www.flyrotary.com/
>>> Archive and UnSub:
> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Homepage:  http://www.flyrotary.com/
> Archive and UnSub:
> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html
>
> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus 
> signature
> database 3267 (20080714) __________
>
> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
>
>
> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus 
> signature
> database 3267 (20080714) __________
>
> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
>
>
> --
> Homepage:  http://www.flyrotary.com/
> Archive and UnSub: 
> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html
>