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From: Steven Boese <sboese@uwyo.edu>
To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: WTF? Just when I think everything is going perfect...
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:19:22 -0600
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David,
 
I just reread you message and see that you have checked the CAS.  It's
late, I guess.  Sorry for the no help message.
 
Steve Boese
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
Behalf Of Steven Boese
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 11:15 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: WTF? Just when I think everything is going
perfect...
 
David,
 
Maybe it is a problem with the crank angle sensor.  This signal isn't
needed for the test modes.
 
Steve Boese
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
Behalf Of David Leonard
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 10:08 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] WTF? Just when I think everything is going
perfect...
 
Yesterday I went flying and tested out my new smoke system... everything
was perfect...  somke is fun.  Today I head out to go formation flying..
nothing changed from my flight yesterday except for adding fuel.  But it
won't start...   I verify that I have fuel pressure, fuel flow, injector
function (in test mode), I have spark (in test mode).  Maybe it is
flooded... I change the plugs, re-verify spark in cranking mode (to
eliminate issues with CAS), re-drain the fuel, verify compression,
re-verify fuel pressure and flow and injector funcion... but still it
just turns over without starting...  Sigh

Anyone one know of a new component necessary other than fuel, spark, and
compression?

-- 
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I just reread you message and see =
that you
have checked the CAS.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; =
</span>It&#8217;s late, I
guess.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>Sorry for the no =
help message.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Steve <span =
class=3DSpellE>Boese</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Rotary motors in =
aircraft
[mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Steven Boese<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> =
</span></font><st1:date
Month=3D"7" Day=3D"19" Year=3D"2009"><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:
 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Sunday, July 19, =
2009</span></font></st1:date><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><st1:time
Hour=3D"23" Minute=3D"15"><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
 font-family:Tahoma'>11:15 PM</span></font></st1:time><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Rotary motors in =
aircraft<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [FlyRotary] Re: =
WTF? Just
when I think everything is going perfect...</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
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color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>David,<o:p></o:p>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Maybe it is a =
problem
with the crank angle sensor.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; =
</span>This signal
isn&#8217;t needed for the test modes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Steve =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Rotary motors in =
aircraft
[mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>David Leonard<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> =
</span></font><st1:date
Month=3D"7" Day=3D"19" Year=3D"2009"><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:
 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Sunday, July 19, =
2009</span></font></st1:date><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><st1:time
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Rotary motors in =
aircraft<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [FlyRotary] WTF? =
Just
when I think everything is going perfect...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Yesterday I went flying and tested out my new =
smoke
system... everything was perfect...&nbsp; somke is fun.&nbsp; Today I =
head out
to go formation flying..&nbsp; nothing changed from my flight yesterday =
except
for adding fuel.&nbsp; But it won't start...&nbsp;&nbsp; I verify that I =
have
fuel pressure, fuel flow, injector function (in test mode), I have spark =
(in
test mode).&nbsp; Maybe it is flooded... I change the plugs, re-verify =
spark in
cranking mode (to eliminate issues with CAS), re-drain the fuel, verify
compression, re-verify fuel pressure and flow and injector funcion... =
but still
it just turns over without starting...&nbsp; Sigh<br>
<br>
Anyone one know of a new component necessary other than fuel, spark, and
compression?<br clear=3Dall>
<br>
-- <br>
David Leonard<br>
<br>
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY<br>
<a =
href=3D"http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net">http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net</a><br=
>
<a =
href=3D"http://RotaryRoster.net">http://RotaryRoster.net</a><o:p></o:p></=
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