X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3745530 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:20:21 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.121; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from computername ([75.191.186.236]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090705151444934.UNZL19903@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 15:14:44 +0000 From: "Ed Anderson" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Oil. Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 11:14:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C9FD61.CFC77460" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: Acn9gP0Onxn56aeVShyfOx9O7DWuEgAAVAlQ In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20090705151444934.UNZL19903@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C9FD61.CFC77460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Gonzalo, =20 Most of us put 2 cycle oil into our gas tanks. Some folks premix it = with a bit of gasoline in a can before doing so. I personally just pour the = needed amount from a set of plastic 18oz containers and then squirt in the fuel which seems to mix it up just fine. Since each of my two tanks are 18 gallons that gives me around 1 oz per gallon which turns out to be more = than enough. =20 A conversion modification was available for a few years that permitted = you use a firewall mounted container filled with 2 cycle oil and then use = this adaptor and the regular oil injection pump to inject 2 cycle oil rather = than crankcase oil as the automobile set up does. However, I think they have been discontinued due to the lack of interest =96 as I said, most folks = just mix it with their gasoline. =20 Basically, to disable the pump system, you need to plug the two oil injection holes in the alumimun rotor housings (I use two metric short length bolts) and remove the injection pump from the front cover and put = a plate over the pump opening. Some folks remove the gear that drives the pump, I left mine in. Its really not that hard. Hope this helps Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html http://www.flyrotary.com/ http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm =20 _____ =20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Gonzalo A. Gim=E9nez Celis Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 10:57 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Oil. =20 I=92ve been reading Tracy Crook conversion guide that I=92ve found very interesting. Since I have about three more years to finish my Cozy, = there is time for me to do research about engines. I think the choices for me = will be either the Rotary or a XP-360. =20 There is a subject that I would like to have some feedback from you: oil supply for the engine. The guide say that is recommended to disable the system that is included with the engine because is a potential source of failure, and premix the fuel with two stroke oil. My question is, how do = you accomplish that? Is that simple to put oil in the tank? Also, there is anyone using an alternate system, either the one that comes with the = engine or other that does not involve premixing fuel with oil? =20 Thanks! =20 Gonzalo Chile __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus = signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C9FD61.CFC77460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = Gonzalo,

 

Most of us put 2 cycle oil into our = gas tanks.=A0 Some folks premix it with a bit of gasoline in a can before = doing so.=A0 I personally just pour the needed amount from a set of plastic 18oz = containers and then squirt in the fuel which seems to mix it up just fine.=A0 Since = each of my two tanks are 18 gallons that gives me around 1 oz per gallon which = turns out to be more than enough.

 

A conversion modification was = available for a few years that permitted you use a firewall mounted container = filled with 2 cycle oil and then use this adaptor and the regular oil injection pump = to inject 2 cycle oil rather than crankcase oil as the automobile set up = does.=A0 However, I think they have been discontinued due to the lack of interest = – as I said, most folks just mix it with their = gasoline.

 

Basically, to disable the pump system, you = need to plug the two oil injection holes in the alumimun rotor housings (I = use two metric short length bolts) and remove the injection pump from the front = cover and put a plate over the pump opening.=A0 Some folks remove the gear = that drives the pump, I left mine in.=A0 Its really not that = hard.

Hope this = helps

Ed

Ed Anderson

Rv-6A N494BW Rotary = Powered

Matthews, NC

eanderson@carolina.rr.com=

http://www.andersonee.com

http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html

http://www.flyrotary.com/

http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW

http://www.r= otaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm


From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Gonzalo A. Gim=E9nez Celis
Sent: Sunday, July 05, = 2009 10:57 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] = Oil.

 

I’ve been reading Tracy Crook conversion guide that I’ve found very interesting. Since I have about three more years to finish my Cozy, = there is time for me to do research about engines. I think the choices for me = will be either the Rotary or a XP-360.

 

There is a subject that I would like to have some feedback from you: oil = supply for the engine. The guide say that is recommended to disable the system that = is included with the engine because is a potential source of failure, and = premix the fuel with two stroke oil. My question is, how do you accomplish = that? Is that simple to put oil in the tank? Also, there is anyone using an = alternate system, either the one that comes with the engine or other that does not involve premixing fuel with oil?

 

Thanks!

 

Gonzalo

Chile



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