X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3744855 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:32:44 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.121; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com Received: from [192.168.0.19] (really [66.57.38.121]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090704163207000.NEZG2041@cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 16:32:07 +0000 Message-ID: <4A4F8424.3050102@nc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:32:36 -0400 From: Ernest Christley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fire Shield or Heat Sheild [FlyRotary] Re: P MAlternator Project References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob Perkinson wrote: > The best fire suppression system is just plane water. Before I > retired we replaced all of our CO2 fire suppression systems with high > press. water mist. 30 gal of water replaced 6 150# CO2 bottles. The > idea is the water will spray out in a fine mist and instantly turn to > steam, this removes the heat from the combustion and also displaces > the air. I know that displacing the air would be hard to do in a > moving aircraft but removing the heat would definitely put out the > fire if the mist were spraying on and in the area of the exhaust this > may prevent what ever fluid is leaking from re-combustion. A high > press. water system big enough to be able to do this would be weighty > and take up a considerable amount of room (Water container + high > press. gas cylinder plus high press piping and spray nozzles.) I am > not sure how to figure the btu's stored in the exhaust system, but > fairly sure that it would be a function of the mass of the eshaust > system and the temp. of the metal, this would dictate how much water > would be neede to remove this heat. Water would have to be kept above > freezing, this throws another kink in the logestics of this type of > system. > Somone out there may have an idea on this and how to make this a > practical system. > > Bob P. Most of us rotary guys already carry a water reservoir that is protected from freezing. If your engine compartment is on fire, you probably won't be overly concerned with the internals of your engine getting to hot. You just need a way to mist the water. I suggest an unregulated fuel pump into some metal tubing and out through three or four strategically placed agricultural misting nozzles. The cooling system only uses a few quarts, but how many do you need once you cut the fuel supply? -- http://www.ernest.isa-geek.org