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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 21:43:18 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Firewall insulation was P M Alternator
From: "David Moyer" <davidm@remconinc.com>
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For a bit more money if you are really concerned about fire in the
cockpit, how about a Halon System?

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/phoenix1301.php

David Moyer
Cozy Mk-IV Plans#727 13B Turbo

> Todd and group,
>      In reference to the Von Alexander tragedy and airborne inflight
> fire....... I do not
> know how others of the group feel about parachutes but many years ago
> (when I
> was 45 years old) I trained in skydiving because as an aircraft
> homebuilder I wanted
> to be less afraid of using my parachute in the event (no matter how
> remote) of an
> inflight emergency (structural or fire) then staying with an aircraft when
> there was no
> chance of my survival............Be advised skydiving turned out to fun
> and turned into
> another hobby but my main objective was obtained.........I would have no
> hesitation
> to the use of my parachute if it becomes necessary !!.........Of course
> anything one
> can do to prevent or slow down a fire from getting to the cockpit is
> prudent....FWIW
> --
> Kelly Troyer
> "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
> "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
> "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold
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> -------------- Original message from Todd Bartrim <bartrim@gmail.com>:
> --------------
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> Hi Kelly;
>     I've finished the first phase of getting the darned thing in there.
> Second phase will be actually running it to test it. I haven't yet
> bought a voltage regulator or even given any thought as to tying it
> into the electrical system, though I don't expect any problems here. I
> just finished writing a full report on how to do this installation,
> just need to proof read it and export it into a PDF or something small
> enough to post. It's currently in .odt and 24Mb. Maybe I'll see if I
> can just put it on the Rotary Wiki. You can probably expect it late
> tonight (pacific time).
>     Second phase will likely be late summer or early fall, as I'm about to
> completely remove the entire FWF in order to install a ceramic blanket
> heat shield in one piece. Some of you may remember the Von Alexander
> story about an RV8 pilot that jumped to his death in order to avoid
> flames in the cockpit. Well my boy wants to go flying real bad, but
> that's something I always think about. So while it's not something I
> plan to happen, It's one more base I'd like to cover as best I can. I
> wish I'd done something like this while building initially, but there
> wasn't much available back then.
> A builder by the name of Vince Frazier has started FlyBoy accessories and
> offers a firewall insulation kit that is ideal and affordable. Ironically,
> Vince bought his initial tool set from Von Alexander's widow. So I've
> ordered this kit
> http://www.flyboyaccessories.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=204
> I will completely strip the firewall in order to install it in one piece
> with as few penetrations as possible.
> While it's off I plan to change some things on my cooling system, based on
> some of the recent successes I've seen here on the list in the last few
> years since I first completed my plane (it's never really completed). But
> even these projects will be delayed by other non-aircraft projects that I
> have to get done.
>
> Todd
> C-FSTB
> RV9 13B
>
> On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 17:52 +0000, Kelly Troyer wrote:
>
>
> Todd,
>     Just How is Your PM Alternator Project going ??.......We are all
> hopeful that it will lessen a possible alternator fail point by virtue
> of being direct drive and eliminating the drive belt......
> --
> Kelly Troyer
> "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
> "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
> "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold