X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3742708 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:39:59 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.121; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from computername ([75.191.186.236]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090702153921966.WOJE24657@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:39:21 +0000 From: "Ed Anderson" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: frustrating couple of days Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:39:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acn7ISPOE1QMvyVdROmyfPp04GAz/QACdfiA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Message-Id: <20090702153921966.WOJE24657@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> Thanks Thomas, Clearly anytime any part of the chip might be operating outside of specs enhances the odds for something going amiss. I had not known that bit = of history on EEPROMs. Just started using embedded chips about 4 years ago = - still lots to learn. Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html http://www.flyrotary.com/ http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of thomas walter Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:26 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: frustrating couple of days Ed, Odd electrical trivia. Older eeproms were rated at 3.3V, so below 2.7V they ignored any read or write information. We had a uC that would start "jabbering" on the data and clock lines = when power was caming up. Since reset occurred once power was good, it was never an issue. Problem is the eeprom manufactures started shipping = parts that were functional from 1.8V to 3.3V. So once power was at 1.7V, it accepted writes, corrupting the eeprom. Just to drive the engineers = crazy only some lots and some devices 'jibbered' away. Yes, amazing I still = have any hair left. :) That is pretty rare, but has happened.=20 Yes, Mike -- Interesting you're only seeing an issue with the "B" controller. Still triple check the power, grounds, and rest of the connections. =20 =20 > Since the fuel map is stored in non-volute memory, it=92s hard to = figure out how it is being re-written or destroyed.=A0 Normally (as you know) = access to EEPROM on a chip is a rather non-trivial process.=A0 =A0Since the A and = B controller are two different chips, I suppose there could be a problem = with the B chip =96 but, while that does happen, it=92s pretty rare.=A0 Have = not had one myself (yet). =20 -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus = signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com =20 __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus = signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com =20