X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from EXHUB003-3.exch003intermedia.net ([207.5.74.110] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 3685713 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:10:20 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.5.74.110; envelope-from=jwhaley@datacast.com Received: from EXVMBX003-5.exch003intermedia.net ([207.5.74.45]) by EXHUB003-3.exch003intermedia.net ([207.5.74.110]) with mapi; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:07:49 -0700 From: Jeff Whaley To: Rotary motors in aircraft Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:09:38 -0700 Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: MotionX-GPS as a flight instrument? Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: MotionX-GPS as a flight instrument? Thread-Index: AcnvaeN9w92vBaSLReuxUD4w2BMQVQAA6XAA Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_C03ABB0A7362B84BB53D544B3C305E0E011B4A236869EXVMBX0035e_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_000_C03ABB0A7362B84BB53D544B3C305E0E011B4A236869EXVMBX0035e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David, I wouldn't consider an iPhone as a primary GPS ... but it could be u= sed as backup ... after landing, turn it back into a cell phone and close f= light plan. Jeff From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Beh= alf Of David Moyer Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:36 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: MotionX-GPS as a flight instrument? Also check out Checklist Lite, also free. I use the GPS Motion X lite when = out running/mountain biking, and have tried it in the car. Seems to be pret= ty accurate. I haven't tried it in the plane yet. My experience with the GP= S in the iPhone isn't very accurate compared to my Garmin in the car. Altit= ude is off by a factor of at least 50 ft and as much as 150 ft at times whe= n not tracking all satellites in iHUD. Ground position seems to be off by a= s much as 50 ft approximately. The iphone and any applications shouldn't be= used for any critical operations. Now the new iPhone with the built in dig= ital compass will make it a bit more accurate, but still not going to be my= choice for a navigation/flight instrument. David Moyer Bob Tilley wrote: Jeff, The new one is $99. Other programs to check out are AOPA airports, iHud, F= lightplan, oh and X-Plane. Bob Tilley Albany, Ga On Jun 17, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Jeff Whaley wrote: GPS in a phone as a flight instrument ... not off-topic at all. The software is $2.99 ... how much is an iPhone? I don't have a cell phone yet, but when flying increases I'll need one ... = the iPhone may be a good choice. BTW, I've heard of other PDAs that people use as GPS devices. Jeff From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Beh= alf Of Mark Steitle Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:58 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] MotionX-GPS as a flight instrument? I know this is off topic and a bit geeky, but I was wondering if anyone wit= h an iPhone has tried the MotionX-GPS application to track their flights? = It was designed for tracking workouts, like for mountain biking and jogging= . But I couldn't help but wonder how it would work as a poor man's GPS. T= he basic "LITE" app is free, full-featured app is only $2.99 (almost free).= One user comments that it works better than his $500 GPS. Is this possib= le? I just downloaded it and plan to try it out this weekend. Maybe it won't e= ven work at altitude, but since it gets its signals from GPS satellites, ma= ybe it will surprise me. See http://gps.motionx.com/overview/ Check out the picture of the iphone m= ounted on the handlebars of the mountain bike, with the MotionX app running= . Now picture your instrument panel with the same mount. Pretty cool, and= very cost effective, assuming you already have an iPhone. Mark S. --_000_C03ABB0A7362B84BB53D544B3C305E0E011B4A236869EXVMBX0035e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

David, I wouldn’t consider an iPhone as a primary GPS = … but it could be used as backup … after landing, turn it back into a c= ell phone and close flight plan.

Jeff

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David Moyer
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:36 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: MotionX-GPS as a flight instrument?

 

Also check out Checklist Lite, also free. I use the GP= S Motion X lite when out running/mountain biking, and have tried it in the ca= r. Seems to be pretty accurate. I haven't tried it in the plane yet. My experi= ence with the GPS in the iPhone isn't very accurate compared to my Garmin in the car. Altitude is off by a factor of at least 50 ft and as much as 150 ft at times when not tracking all satellites in iHUD. Ground position seems to be= off by as much as 50 ft approximately. The iphone and any applications shouldn'= t be used for any critical operations. Now the new iPhone with the built in digi= tal compass will make it a bit more accurate, but still not going to be my choi= ce for a navigation/flight instrument.

David Moyer
 



Bob Tilley wrote:

Jeff,

 

The new one is $99.  Other programs to check out = are AOPA airports, iHud, Flightplan, oh and X-Plane.  

 

 

Bob Tilley<= /span>

Albany, Ga<= /span>

 

On Jun 17, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Jeff Whaley wrote:<= /o:p>



GPS in a phone as a flight instrument … not off-topic = at all.

The software is $2.99 … how much is an iPhone?<= o:p>

I don’t have a cell phone yet, but when flying increas= es I’ll need one … the iPhone may be a good choice.

BTW, I’ve heard of other PDAs that people use as GPS devices.

Jeff

 

From: Rotary motors = in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@l= ancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Wednesday, Jun= e 17, 2009 10:58 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] MotionX-GPS as a flight instrument?

 

I know this is off topic and a bit geeky, but I was wondering if anyone with an iPhone has tried the MotionX-GPS application to track their flights?  It was designed for tracking workouts, like for mountain biking and jogging.  But I couldn't help b= ut wonder how it would work as a poor man's GPS.  The basic "LITE" app is free, full-featured app is only $2.99 (almost free).  One user comments that it works better than his $500 GPS.  Is this possible?

 

I just downloaded it and plan to try it out = this weekend.  Maybe it won't even work at altitude, but since it gets its signals from GPS satellites, maybe it will surprise me. =

 

 

Mark S.

 

 

 

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