X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.123] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3682717 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:41:10 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.123; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from computername ([75.191.186.236]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090615114034503.WSKC19023@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:40:34 +0000 From: "Ed Anderson" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Not developing full power. Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:40:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcntY7m17AX/IwxRQCGHvlV6Y9CJRwAR8ZxA In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Message-Id: <20090615114034503.WSKC19023@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> Congratulations, Don. Always great to hear of another project airborne. Yes, the 1.5*1.8 ratio of outlet to inlet area is a rule of thumb that has been around a fairly long time. Once your inlet is a certain size relative to your radiator core then exit size becomes the dominating factor in air flow through your system. There is a theory which says you should narrow your exit area in order to speed up the cooling airflow to match the velocity of the outside airstream for minimum drag - can't recall if the theory addressed what this did to cooling effectiveness {:>). Always a compromise and trade off when dealing with cooling. Regarding your injectors, I couldn't find any size stated, but with the stock injectors on the older 13B, you could easily fly on either pair and produce almost full power on just two injectors. So unless you are at the limit of one pair then turning on/off the second pair won't make a big difference. Now if you are using the stock Renesis set up with the small flow injectors for primary and large injector for secondary then it indeed will likely make a difference. One of the things that I have read from the experts is that the older 13Bs were sensitive to exhaust back-pressure. Now, I believe this is more significant if you have radical porting of your intakes/exhaust than our more modest intake port timing. May also be due to the overlap of intake and exhaust on the older 13Bs which you of course do not have with the side port exhausts. However, when you mention having the quietest engine on the field makes me wonder as to whether your muffler might be impeding power production. Your power is, of course, going to be no better than the most restrictive part of your intake/exhaust system. Don't know if it's practical (or safe) to try removing/bypassing your muffler - just to see if it has an effect on power production. Oops, just re-read you message and see you did remove the Hushpower muffler - but, not certain that would make much difference as its pretty much a straight through muffler. You do not mention any fuel flow figures with your rpm - that would be interesting to see - if you have the data available. It sometimes just takes a bit of time to develop an installation to its full potential. The 66 mm TB should not be a limitation, I use a 65mm Mustang TB and can get over 180 HP on my older 13B. Keep us apprised of progress/problems/solutions Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html http://www.flyrotary.com/ http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com