X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([69.147.92.125] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with SMTP id 3641588 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 13 May 2009 17:54:12 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.147.92.125; envelope-from=delta11xd@att.net Received: (qmail 16514 invoked by uid 60001); 13 May 2009 21:53:36 -0000 Message-ID: <871699.15642.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 06n1WiEVM1krha1ad0V5MrX98ZMKQ_FphXH3HQ.fDJh6RroQsUzrzT2OMZdkxd_Z99auz6Z_ql.fjePXWASp.Zf5AxTngJG3Og0asSDjRaWGtkRQqGHFekVUmXR1wfVRY0qjXc9fVCgnNNrykBMpuTIkyrf_VHar7qRfZKsg3LZuql7.k2.Rox9WTQmRlU.pEisKuLa.Nhm4daF17j3UMorGv9VXbhO4n0YEq6e0pqnPXgziIxJ8ycmrdPbit85kV0RnA7rk7qn6gD.HnnEDXUNR0EYi6gjPcym2LqauOxxKR6vW60AgZnwOp2o7pD72VdygEKn1hg-- Received: from [76.243.125.186] by web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 13 May 2009 14:53:36 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:53:36 -0700 (PDT) From: James Maher Reply-To: delta11xd@att.net Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Initial Tuning To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-233482848-1242251616=:15642" --0-233482848-1242251616=:15642 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike, Are you using Throttle Body Fuel injection or multiport FI? --- On Wed, 5/13/09, Mike Fontenot wrote= : From: Mike Fontenot Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Initial Tuning To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 3:16 PM Thanks guys, Great ideas on ways to check the throttle body for leaks.=A0 This weekend I= will tackle the alternator no-power problem. Then move forward. Jim: injectors are the originals on the brand new engine, so I have to assu= me they are the correct size.=20 >>WD-40 - I've had good luck finding vacuum leaks using WD-40. With the eng= ine running, spray WD-40 around the intake gasket and other places you susp= ect a leak. Since WD-40 is flammable, the engine will change speed if it su= cks some liquid into the intake. If the engine speed changes, you've found = your leak. For safety purposes, and to keep the WD-40 from spraying you in = the face, you may want to remove the prop. VACUUM GAUGE - Another way to diagnose engine problems is with a vacuum gau= ge. See http://autospeed.com/cms/title_Using-a-Vacuum-Gauge-for-Engine-Diag= nostics/A_2393/article.html Mark S. PINCH HOSE - One way to test for intake manifold leaks is to pinch off hose= s one by one while the engine is running to see if RPM decreases. You could= also remove the each hose at the manifold an plug the inlet. Also be sure = that the intake manifold gasket and throttle body gasket are sealing good a= nd that all bolts are tight. FUEL INJECTORS - Are you using the right fuel injector for your application= ?=20 YES - ORIGINALS Such large jumps may be due to improper injector sizing. The Geo engine is a fuel sipper rather than a gas guzzler so it would requi= re an injector that can meter fuel much more precisely. << --=20 Mike =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Mike Fontenot Apex Consulting & Services LLC Lakewood, Colorado 303 / 731-6645 mikef AT apexconsultingservices DOT com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --0-233482848-1242251616=:15642 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mike,
Are you using Throttle Body Fuel injection or multiport FI?


--- On Wed, 5/13/09, Mike Fontenot <mikef@apexconsult= ingservices.com> wrote:
From: Mike Fontenot <mikef@apexconsultingservices.= com>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Initial Tuning
To: "Rotary motors in= aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Date: Wednesday, May 13, = 2009, 3:16 PM

Thanks guys,

Great ideas on ways to check the= throttle body for leaks.  This weekend I will tackle the alternator n= o-power problem. Then move forward.
Jim: injectors are the originals on = the brand new engine, so I have to assume they are the correct size.
>>WD-40 - I've had good luck finding vacuum leaks using WD-40. With= the engine running, spray WD-40 around the intake gasket and other places = you suspect a leak. Since WD-40 is flammable, the engine will change speed = if it sucks some liquid into the intake. If the engine speed changes, you'v= e found your leak. For safety purposes, and to keep the WD-40 from spraying= you in the face, you may want to remove the prop.

VACUUM GAUGE - An= other way to diagnose engine problems is with a vacuum gauge. See http://autospeed.com/cms/title_Using-a-Vacuum-Gauge-for-Eng= ine-Diagnostics/A_2393/article.html
Mark S.

PINCH HOSE - One = way to test for intake manifold leaks is to pinch off hoses one by one whil= e the engine is running to see if RPM decreases. You could also remove the = each hose at the manifold an plug the inlet. Also be sure that the intake m= anifold gasket and throttle body gasket are sealing good and that all bolts= are tight.

FUEL INJECTORS - Are you using the right fuel injector f= or your application?
YES - ORIGINALS
Such large jumps may be due to = improper injector sizing.
The Geo engine is a fuel sipper rather than a = gas guzzler so it would require
an injector that can meter fuel much mor= e precisely.
<<

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Mike

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Mike Fontenot
Apex Consulting & Services LLC
Lakewoo= d, Colorado
303 / 731-6645
mikef AT apexconsultingservices DOT com
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