X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao105.cox.net ([68.230.241.41] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTP id 3523280 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:45:47 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.41; envelope-from=dale.r@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo03.cox.net ([70.169.32.75]) by fed1rmmtao105.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090302144506.IJVP15318.fed1rmmtao105.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:45:06 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([72.223.46.207]) by fed1rmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id NEl51b00E4UCPC804El5Fs; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:45:05 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=m9578xeXi9PmoWkwAKYA:9 a=6LUMVNOBzEYnZlhQ71MA:7 a=9licmfKlONcjvaZ6YL7K5KbVHbQA:4 a=-ZQhYGXY2L8A:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <49ABF0EE.1090106@cox.net> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:45:02 -0700 From: Dale Rogers User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Missing Key References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Folks, Is there any good reason to _not_ locktite (red) the key into the pump shaft groove? Dale R. Ed Anderson wrote: > > Very good point, Tom. > > Don’t know how I could have forgotten the problem I had with the key > for the oil pump shaft. In fact, I flew for 10 hours with the key > missing – only the clamping force of the nut on the shaft holding the > gear to the shoulder of the shaft. While at Shady Bend (Tracy Crook), > I unintentionally left my throttle at full open after we had comparing > throttle bodies and intakes. > > The next morning was a bit cool and I was using 50 weight oil. I > hopped into go do some flying with Tracy and Finn Lassen, when I fired > up the engine (Having forgotten to close the throttle from the > previous days inspection), the engine caught and immediately zoomed to > 5000 rpm before I could hastily pull the throttle back. I noticed > lower than normal (around 20-25 psi) oil pressure while taxing to take > off and just told myself it was the cold weather, cranky sensor or > gauge, but by the time I got to take off position, I notice the oil > pressure had never gotten above 25 psi when normally at taxi rpm I > would have around 40-50 psi. > > Fortunately, I could not bring myself to take off with that condition > (even though I kept telling myself there was nothing wrong). After > much trouble shooting, I decided I had to pull the engine off > (thankfully, Tracy Crook had a great facility to do that in) . I > removed the oil pan and as I took it over to wash it out, I hear a > metallic clanking in the pan – yes, you know what it was – a much > battered key for the oil pump shaft. When I had pushed the sprocket on > the shaft, I had pushed out the key but unfortunately, it did not drop > down. It got trapped between the sprocket wheel and the soft aluminum > oil pump housing (the indention was in the soft aluminum) from the > force torquing the nut down. This had push the sprocket against the > trapped key which in turn had pushed the key against the housing and > trapped it there – probably until the first engine run. Fortunately, I > had torqued the nut down as specified – which some folks think is a > bit high for that small a nut, but glad I had. I’m also glad in hind > sight I left the throttle open and it was a cool morning – who knows > when it might have let go. > > So now when I rebuild an engine, I take a small paper clip and bend > the end out so I can stick it in the keyway hole after putting the > sprocket on. If it goes in all the way – the key is not in its slot! > > Moral of the story, it can happen to any of us – so take time and > check. As Tom mentioned, it can be a bit of a hassle to get the keyway > in the slot and sprocket on – if it falls out (as it will most of the > time) and you hear it/see it you are OK. But, if it gets trapped as my > key did – you won’t get that clue. So use a paper clip, inspection or > something to insure the key is where you think it is. > > Also pay attention to your gauges and your gut they are both always > telling you something – if you will only listen {:>) > > Ed >