Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #44319
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Renesis fuel burn
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:33:41 -0500
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

Hi Rino,

 

I don’t have a Renesis but, I am surprised that you could only get 11.7 GPH burn at 6400 rpm.  In fact, I am   surprised that you could achieve 6400 rpm at that fuel burn in a Glass Goose and still get off the water (or are you only doing land takes at the moment)  – but, then that of course depends on the prop load and other factors.

 

If fact at only 6000 rpm, 11.7 GPH would only give you an air/fuel ratio of roughly 21:1 – a  very, very lean mixture especially for take off, especially from water and approx 124 HP.  Are there any other indicators of performance, rate of climb, top speed? In comparison with other Glass Goose?      Do you have an air/fuel ratio indicator??

 

 

My first suggested would be to calibrate your EM2.  It would appear to me that its unlikely you are only producing 124 HP.  What is the nominal HP one finds in a Glass Goose? What size Lycoming for example?

 

 I would hate to see you doing a lot of work only to find out that the fuel burn rate being reported by the EM2 is erroneous due to lack of calibration.  Its tough know where to look for a problem or to make decisions, if you are not certain of the data. 

 

 

My 13B will nominally show 17-18 gph at 6000 -6200 rpm on take off roll and on a cold <40F morning has shown as much as 19-20 gph. I am using a 2.85:1 redrive -  swinging a 74x88 two blade wooden prop. 

 

How much manifold pressure?  What type of prop? How many blades, pitch?  Adjustable in flight??

 

You mention 17” of runners – what distance does that measure?  I always measure from the block entrance to the center of the Throttle body and then I add 2.5” for the distance from the face of the block to the actually opening to the combustion chamber.  Based on that I have runners  that are 22” long, but that length was my calculation for best power at around 6000 rpm.  Best power at higher rpm would, of course, not need as long a runner.

 

More details on your installation would help us try to help you. 

 

Ed

Ed Anderson

Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered

Matthews, NC

eanderson@carolina.rr.com

http://www.andersonee.com

http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW

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From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Rino
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 6:32 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Renesis fuel burn

 

Where can I get information on fuel burn and power for the renesis?

The maximum fuel burn I can get on takeoff is 11.7 gph (reading on the EM2) at 64 00 rpm.   The EM2 is not fully calibrated yet!   I think I should be able to get a higher fuel burn than that.

 

The other part of the problem.  What should be the intake manifold runner length on the Renesis.  Best power has to be between 6000 and 6500 rpm limited by the propeller and redrive configuration.   I cannot use more than 65" dia. prop.

 

The present runner length is 17" and I think it is not enough.

 

Rino Lacombe

Renesis powered Glass Goose



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