X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com ([74.125.44.29] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.10) with ESMTP id 3312479 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:50:30 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.125.44.29; envelope-from=wdleonard@gmail.com Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 3so688584yxj.7 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:49:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=jxnjRhTh8vbq13zDQ+gaMeVm0IFr3fmdlXklJXh1NqU=; b=NgiVrSOasRRNThBVoJWtrevBpu/DjHXJEavXuzpd+TX+XE2/RBIBYSthyM/1bjCkuA +ZVNH/aF+opdRxDvWosx07QNSV7t3G7qdM51UXR3hIzwWFgZlmKNLbHTGRfWQr4pv2aQ QOLvOAyNQCn5DlXsQmFHy/h8LzHM+8qEA+/tU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=kFViXUkmV7SeG2C1LatyHZkVbh2lMpPsbWQkS4C8sxj8Kvoc9oxk0jgPzUQI7t/Zp4 E19h6TSIWp0/8k/SFgOo1iUaJz14rhH54gtpRrFq4aZOZc+0gSOFIELG0wPP/r+fYjzt pk/ALg4QrxwaHD3r2dtCWlfVDt4MFrnS0aeos= Received: by 10.90.99.3 with SMTP id w3mr1078888agb.89.1227376193014; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:49:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.115.13 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:49:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1c23473f0811220949y5b2187e0lb5ffe80366511191@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:49:52 -0800 From: "David Leonard" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Mike Wills...when's your first flight? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_139568_25288874.1227376192988" References: ------=_Part_139568_25288874.1227376192988 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Mike, You know how I feel about it, same as Tracy and Ed. My first take off and landing in an RV-6 was my test flight - and I had not flown a TD in over 2 years. Basic flying skills are not particularly fleeting. You have plent= y of TW&RV experience, I think you are just stalling. :-) So just go fly it before the marine layer comes back!! Will be glad to hel= p any way I can including my previous offer of some time in my right seat. But if you don't do it soon I am going to sneak over there one of these day= s and "steal" your first flight just to get it out of the way ;-) --=20 David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Tracy Crook wrot= e: > Ed's words on his first flight were virtually a carbon copy of my own. A= nd > this was after flying nothing but ultralights for the 10 years prior to > flying the RV. > > I thought about getting an experienced RV pilot to do the first flight bu= t > could not bring myself to ask anyone else to take the responsibility for > such a truly experimental machine. Besides, no one knows your unique > systems and how to handle them better than you. > > All the best on your first flight whenever you decide you're ready. You > are the PIC. > > Tracy Crook > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 1:17 AM, Ed Anderson w= rote: > >> Hi Mike, >> >> >> >> If you can get a ride in an RV that would be great. However, I ran into >> the same problem =96 no Rv's available in my area back in 1998. So my f= irst >> flight in an RV was my test flight =96 I don't necessarily recommend tha= t, >> however, I found the Rv so easy to fly that in my focus on my very high = oil >> temperature and decision to abort after one circuit of the patter (actua= lly >> =BD circuit), I made a grease landing. On reflection, I was amazed at = how >> easy the Rv was to fly, I had not had to give any conscious thought to >> flying while in the air. >> >> >> >> In fact, I find a Cessna 150 on a hot day much tougher to land. The onl= y >> thing I would caution if attempting this =96 it is better to keep the ai= rspeed >> up a bit on the first couple of landings as the short wings are not very >> forgiving if you get a high sink rate going. I would recommend keeping = it >> up to 80 MPH IAS on final =96 particularly if you have a long run way. = That >> keeps the sink rate low and manageable. >> >> >> >> Naturally with a tail dragger =96 keep those feet dancing on the peddles= to >> keep the nose from wandering. But, if you can land the Citabria without= any >> problem, I would be very surprised if the RV would give you any. >> >> >> >> Good luck on that first flight =96 although ""good preparation" would be= a >> better saying. But, don't let me or anyone else tempt you to do that fi= rst >> flight until you are good and ready. >> >> >> >> Ed >> >> >> >> Ed Anderson >> >> Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered >> >> Matthews, NC >> >> eanderson@carolina.rr.com >> >> http://www.andersonee.com >> >> http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW >> >> http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *= On >> Behalf Of *Mike Wills >> *Sent:* Friday, November 21, 2008 7:35 PM >> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft >> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Mike Wills...when's your first flight? >> >> >> >> Doug, >> >> >> >> The airplane is ready - the pilot not so much. I was gearing up with a >> CFI and did about 5 hours in a Citabria back in September. Was feeling >> pretty good about things and wanted to get in just another hour or two t= o >> brush up on wheel landings. Then spent the entire month of October and e= arly >> November on the road. Also had some unexpected expenses during this time >> frame. >> >> >> >> So once the finances settle out and I can go get a few more hours of >> dual. I may still make one last attempt to get a few hours of RV dual to= o, >> but when I've looked into it in the past the guys who do that always see= m to >> be scheduled 6 months in advance. >> >> >> >> Mike Wills >> >> RV-4 N144MW >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> *From:* DLOMHEIM@aol.com >> >> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft >> >> *Sent:* Friday, November 21, 2008 2:52 AM >> >> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Mike Wills...when's your first flight? >> >> >> >> Mike: >> >> >> >> How soon until you slip the surley (spelling?) bonds of the earth with >> your RV-4? It looked like you were about ready to fly when I saw it ear= lier >> in the year... >> >> >> >> Fly safe! >> >> >> >> Doug >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *One site has it all.* Your email accounts, your social networks, and th= e >> things you love. *Try the new AOL.comtoday! >> * >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> > > ------=_Part_139568_25288874.1227376192988 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Mike,

You  know how I feel about it, same as Tracy and Ed. = ; My first take off and landing in an RV-6 was my test flight - and I had n= ot flown a TD in over 2 years.  Basic flying skills are not particular= ly fleeting.   You have plenty of TW&RV experience, I think you ar= e just stalling. :-)

So just go fly it before the marine layer comes back!!  Will be gl= ad to help any way I can including my previous offer of some time in my rig= ht seat.

But if you don't do it soon I am going to sneak over th= ere one of these days and "steal" your first flight just to get i= t out of the way ;-)

--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Tracy Crook <tracy@rotaryaviation.com> wrote:
Ed's words on his first flight were virtually a carbon copy of my own.&= nbsp; And this was after flying nothing but ultralights for the 10 years pr= ior to flying the RV.

I thought about getting an experienced RV pilo= t to do the first flight but could not bring myself to ask anyone else to t= ake the responsibility for such a truly experimental machine.  Besides= ,  no one knows your unique systems and how to handle them better than= you.

All the best on your first flight whenever you decide you're ready.=   You are the PIC.

Tracy Crook

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 1:17 AM, Ed= Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:

Hi Mike,

 

If you can get a ride in an RV tha= t would be great.  However, I ran into the same problem =96 no Rv's availa= ble in my area back in 1998.  So my first flight in an RV was my test flig= ht =96 I don't necessarily recommend that, however, I found the Rv so easy to fly that in my focus on my very high oil temperature and decision to abort after one circuit of the patter (actually =BD circuit), I made a grease lan= ding.  On  reflection, I was amazed at how easy the Rv was to fly, I had not = had to give any conscious thought to flying while in the air.  =

 

In fact, I find a Cessna 150 on a = hot day much tougher to land.  The only thing I would caution if attempting th= is =96 it is better to keep the airspeed up a bit on the first couple of landings = as the short wings are not very forgiving if you get a high sink rate going.&n= bsp; I would recommend keeping it up to 80 MPH IAS on final =96 particularly if you have a long run way.  That keeps the sink rate low and manageable.=

 

Naturally with a tail dragger =96 = keep those feet dancing on the peddles to keep the nose from wandering.  Bu= t, if you can land the Citabria without any problem, I would be very surprised if the= RV would give you any.

 

Good luck on that first flight =96 although ""good preparation" would be a better saying. = But, don't let me or anyone else tempt you to do that first flight until you are good and ready.

 

Ed

 

From: Ro= tary motors in aircraft [mailto:fl= yrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mike Wills
Sent: Friday, November 21,= 2008 7:35 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: M= ike Wills...when's your first flight?

 

Doug,

 

 The airplane is ready - th= e pilot not so much. I was gearing up with a CFI and did about 5 hours in a Citabri= a back in September. Was feeling pretty good about things and wanted to get i= n just another hour or two to brush up on wheel landings. Then spent the enti= re month of October and early November on the road. Also had some unexpected expenses during this time frame.

 

 So once the finances settl= e out and I can go get a few more hours of dual. I may still make one last attempt to= get a few hours of RV dual too, but when I've looked into it in the past th= e guys who do that always seem to be scheduled 6 months in advance.<= /p>

 

Mike Wills

RV-4 N144MW <= /p>

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 21, = 2008 2:52 AM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Mike W= ills...when's your first flight?

 

Mike:

 

How soon until you slip the surl= ey (spelling?) bonds of the earth with your RV-4?  It looked like you wer= e about ready to fly when I saw it earlier in the year...

 

Fly safe!

 

Doug

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