X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com ([209.85.198.234] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.10) with ESMTP id 3312291 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:14:41 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.198.234; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f6so1573929rvb.7 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:14:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=MEZ6ygge94aegUu2OmgrxbYhqU8djDwH41uzQgNgT0o=; b=Umgz9yBQsARD5dfFNTTZUtpkEWJayBE0qS0pEIkCjmDZr5ORXmq7VCwjWBEKzBgk5c wGWGXuRbdLwDtdH/wXgHNPXNoCuJRj3hK4PvKqT31W80AqMe/tkyD2skEh+GR0BEzDtO ktGNjIgTOXOgwchOvMC+bSyMs52eLZ1ev4qkI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=PibQfBQ0bYc1jKUSSFdI7YncZasq/gArCay11mSjK2Ffk5SrGmHLLAE7k4VxXdY6I6 poX+HS7OnyMesb2BUtEtJwq2jteSdPTHaU+KAot9EjTCJMnvCHGBVsWBdiJjhUQvsHqW l2ucePfb6UqxKFN6g3ZtSdjhjoJzVP+tjETB4= Received: by 10.141.162.5 with SMTP id p5mr889938rvo.193.1227366843255; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:14:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.29.15 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:14:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1b4b137c0811220714g76541caewf7a478def768f0b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:14:03 -0500 From: "Tracy Crook" Sender: rwstracy@gmail.com To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Mike Wills...when's your first flight? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_92952_729698.1227366843238" References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 55d8ef7c00ce7d83 ------=_Part_92952_729698.1227366843238 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Ed's words on his first flight were virtually a carbon copy of my own. And this was after flying nothing but ultralights for the 10 years prior to flying the RV. I thought about getting an experienced RV pilot to do the first flight but could not bring myself to ask anyone else to take the responsibility for such a truly experimental machine. Besides, no one knows your unique systems and how to handle them better than you. All the best on your first flight whenever you decide you're ready. You ar= e the PIC. Tracy Crook On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 1:17 AM, Ed Anderson wro= te: > Hi Mike, > > > > If you can get a ride in an RV that would be great. However, I ran into > the same problem =96 no Rv's available in my area back in 1998. So my fi= rst > flight in an RV was my test flight =96 I don't necessarily recommend that= , > however, I found the Rv so easy to fly that in my focus on my very high o= il > temperature and decision to abort after one circuit of the patter (actual= ly > =BD circuit), I made a grease landing. On reflection, I was amazed at h= ow > easy the Rv was to fly, I had not had to give any conscious thought to > flying while in the air. > > > > In fact, I find a Cessna 150 on a hot day much tougher to land. The only > thing I would caution if attempting this =96 it is better to keep the air= speed > up a bit on the first couple of landings as the short wings are not very > forgiving if you get a high sink rate going. I would recommend keeping i= t > up to 80 MPH IAS on final =96 particularly if you have a long run way. T= hat > keeps the sink rate low and manageable. > > > > Naturally with a tail dragger =96 keep those feet dancing on the peddles = to > keep the nose from wandering. But, if you can land the Citabria without = any > problem, I would be very surprised if the RV would give you any. > > > > Good luck on that first flight =96 although ""good preparation" would be = a > better saying. But, don't let me or anyone else tempt you to do that fir= st > flight until you are good and ready. > > > > Ed > > > > Ed Anderson > > Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered > > Matthews, NC > > eanderson@carolina.rr.com > > http://www.andersonee.com > > http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW > > http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *O= n > Behalf Of *Mike Wills > *Sent:* Friday, November 21, 2008 7:35 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Mike Wills...when's your first flight? > > > > Doug, > > > > The airplane is ready - the pilot not so much. I was gearing up with a C= FI > and did about 5 hours in a Citabria back in September. Was feeling pretty > good about things and wanted to get in just another hour or two to brush = up > on wheel landings. Then spent the entire month of October and early Novem= ber > on the road. Also had some unexpected expenses during this time frame. > > > > So once the finances settle out and I can go get a few more hours of dua= l. > I may still make one last attempt to get a few hours of RV dual too, but > when I've looked into it in the past the guys who do that always seem to = be > scheduled 6 months in advance. > > > > Mike Wills > > RV-4 N144MW > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* DLOMHEIM@aol.com > > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > > *Sent:* Friday, November 21, 2008 2:52 AM > > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Mike Wills...when's your first flight? > > > > Mike: > > > > How soon until you slip the surley (spelling?) bonds of the earth with yo= ur > RV-4? It looked like you were about ready to fly when I saw it earlier i= n > the year... > > > > Fly safe! > > > > Doug > > > > ------------------------------ > > *One site has it all.* Your email accounts, your social networks, and the > things you love. *Try the new AOL.comtoday! > * > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > ------=_Part_92952_729698.1227366843238 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Ed's words on his first flight were virtually a carbon copy of my own.&= nbsp; And this was after flying nothing but ultralights for the 10 years pr= ior to flying the RV.

I thought about getting an experienced RV pilo= t to do the first flight but could not bring myself to ask anyone else to t= ake the responsibility for such a truly experimental machine.  Besides= ,  no one knows your unique systems and how to handle them better than= you.

All the best on your first flight whenever you decide you're ready.=   You are the PIC.

Tracy Crook

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 1:17 AM, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:

Hi Mike,

 

If you can get a ride in an RV tha= t would be great.  However, I ran into the same problem =96 no Rv's available in my area back in 1998.  So my first flight in an RV was my test flig= ht =96 I don't necessarily recommend that, however, I found the Rv so easy to fly that in my focus on my very high oil temperature and decision to abort after one circuit of the patter (actually =BD circuit), I made a grease lan= ding.  On  reflection, I was amazed at how easy the Rv was to fly, I had not = had to give any conscious thought to flying while in the air.  =

 

In fact, I find a Cessna 150 on a = hot day much tougher to land.  The only thing I would caution if attempting th= is =96 it is better to keep the airspeed up a bit on the first couple of landings = as the short wings are not very forgiving if you get a high sink rate going.&n= bsp; I would recommend keeping it up to 80 MPH IAS on final =96 particularly if you have a long run way.  That keeps the sink rate low and manageable.=

 

Naturally with a tail dragger =96 = keep those feet dancing on the peddles to keep the nose from wandering.  Bu= t, if you can land the Citabria without any problem, I would be very surprised if the= RV would give you any.

 

Good luck on that first flight =96 although ""good preparation" would be a better saying.  But, don't let me or anyone else tempt you to do that first flight until you are good and ready.

 

Ed

 

From: Ro= tary motors in aircraft [mailto:fl= yrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mike Wills
Sent: Friday, November 21,= 2008 7:35 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: M= ike Wills...when's your first flight?

 

Doug,

 

 The airplane is ready - th= e pilot not so much. I was gearing up with a CFI and did about 5 hours in a Citabri= a back in September. Was feeling pretty good about things and wanted to get i= n just another hour or two to brush up on wheel landings. Then spent the enti= re month of October and early November on the road. Also had some unexpected expenses during this time frame.

 

 So once the finances settl= e out and I can go get a few more hours of dual. I may still make one last attempt to= get a few hours of RV dual too, but when I've looked into it in the past th= e guys who do that always seem to be scheduled 6 months in advance.<= /p>

 

Mike Wills

RV-4 N144MW <= /p>

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 21, = 2008 2:52 AM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Mike W= ills...when's your first flight?

 

Mike:

 

How soon until you slip the surl= ey (spelling?) bonds of the earth with your RV-4?  It looked like you wer= e about ready to fly when I saw it earlier in the year...

 

Fly safe!

 

Doug

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