X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao101.cox.net ([68.230.241.45] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.8) with ESMTP id 3133669 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:30:37 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.45; envelope-from=rv-4mike@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo02.cox.net ([70.169.32.72]) by fed1rmmtao101.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20080916003002.WBPW6175.fed1rmmtao101.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:30:02 -0400 Received: from wills ([68.105.85.56]) by fed1rmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id FCW01a00J1CvZmk04CW2N6; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:30:02 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=2UfDDoph5_WVGpBX81EA:9 a=JXEuUhVE4-v8mV_fe4EA:7 a=kVRg9Gnvbm5m2W5Tt0mGgyxBnlQA:4 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=vNGxQsTWjH8A:10 a=1t4uwcoiX9gEWaSjQdkA:9 a=UeWD1YVe9mvXe0Us72QA:7 a=NXIRgYJFGHeBrUewM5Bt-1-w8vIA:4 a=V9aB5C61OLQA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <003801c91793$5ab284d0$38556944@wills> From: "Mike Wills" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 setup Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:29:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01C91758.ADF6BFC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C91758.ADF6BFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark, Me too (manual at airport). I updated my EC2 in January and the new = manual says Mode 9 to copy. So clarify what "it worked fine" means? Does that mean that the engine = runs more or less the same on A & B after the copy? Or does that simply = mean that you know the data copied OK? So far the only person who has actually answered my question was Dave. = Was kinda hoping to hear from Tracy but I guess he's otherwise occupied = ( I emailed him a few days ago). Mike Wills RV-4 N144MW ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Steitle=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 6:00 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 setup Al,=20 My EC-2 manual is at the airport, but I'm pretty sure that the latest = manual says to use Mode 9 to copy A to B. Following the EC-2 manual, I = did that on Sunday and it worked fine. I know that Tracy made some = changes to a few of the modes. As always... follow the installation = manual, and after an upgrade always throw out the old manual. =20 Mark S. =20 On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 12:53 AM, Al Gietzen = wrote: Mike; Mode 9??? Unless your unit is different, copy A to B is mode 2 =96 = and it copies everything. Mode 9 is for fine adjustment of mixture = settings, and is used for ato-tune in conjunction with the EM2. Al -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Mike Wills Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 6:42 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] EC2 setup I now have the airplane running pretty good throughout the RPM range = on controller A. Using Mode 9 I copied the program to the B controller. = I assumed that the engine would run the same (more or less) on B after = the copy, but no... Seems to be rich throughout the range - to the point = of mis-firing, surging, running rough, etc.... I think I can tweak = everything to settle it down, but is this normal? I assumed there may be = differences in the MAP sensor which would result in a small difference = but really did not expect such a drammatic difference. At most throttle = settings I have to turn the mixture full lean to smooth it out. Does the Mode 9 copy just copy the MAP table or does it also copy = things like the staging point, the global injector setting, etc... If I can get this B controller dialed in I'll be out of excuses - = time to fly. Mike Wills RV-4 N144MW ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C91758.ADF6BFC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mark,
 
 Me too (manual at airport). I = updated my EC2=20 in January and the new manual says Mode 9 to copy.
 
 So clarify what "it worked fine" = means? Does=20 that mean that the engine runs more or less the same on A & B after = the=20 copy? Or does that simply mean that you know the data copied = OK?
 
 So far the only person who has = actually=20 answered my question was Dave. Was kinda hoping to hear from Tracy but I = guess=20 he's otherwise occupied ( I emailed him a few days ago).
 
Mike Wills
RV-4 N144MW
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mark = Steitle=20
Sent: Monday, September 15, = 2008 6:00=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 = setup

Al,
My EC-2 manual is at the airport, but I'm pretty sure that=20 the latest manual says to use Mode 9 to copy A to = B.  Following=20 the EC-2 manual, I did that on Sunday and it worked fine.  I know = that=20 Tracy made some changes to a few of the modes.  As = always...=20 follow the installation manual, and after an upgrade always throw out = the old=20 manual. 
 
Mark S.   

On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 12:53 AM, Al Gietzen = <ALVentures@cox.net> = wrote:

Mike;

 

Mode = 9??? =20 Unless your unit is different, copy A to B is mode 2 =96 and it = copies=20 everything. Mode 9 is for fine adjustment of mixture settings, and = is used=20 for ato-tune in conjunction with the EM2.

 

Al

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mike = Wills
Sent:=20 Sunday, September 14, 2008 6:42 PM
To: Rotary motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary] EC2 setup

 

I now have the = airplane running=20 pretty good throughout the RPM range on controller A. Using Mode 9 I = copied=20 the program to the B controller. I assumed that the engine would run = the=20 same (more or less) on B after the copy, but no... Seems to be rich=20 throughout the range - to the point of mis-firing, surging, running = rough,=20 etc.... I think I can tweak everything to settle it down, but is = this=20 normal? I assumed there may be differences in the MAP sensor which = would=20 result in a small difference but really did not expect such a = drammatic=20 difference. At most throttle settings I have to turn the mixture = full lean=20 to smooth it out.

 

Does the Mode 9 copy = just copy=20 the MAP table or does it also copy things like the staging point, = the global=20 injector setting, etc...

 

If I can get this B = controller=20 dialed in I'll be out of excuses - time to = fly.

 

Mike=20 Wills

RV-4=20 N144MW

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