X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao106.cox.net ([68.230.241.40] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.5) with ESMTP id 3050753 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:11:43 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.40; envelope-from=dale.r@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo02.cox.net ([70.169.32.72]) by fed1rmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20080801031104.PKTH28780.fed1rmmtao106.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:11:04 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([72.223.44.12]) by fed1rmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id wrB41Z0050Flgvc04rB4An; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:11:04 -0400 Message-ID: <48927EC8.70107@cox.net> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:11:04 -0700 From: Dale Rogers User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Safety wire References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ernest Christley wrote: > Dale Rogers wrote: >> Bill, >> >> "Case hardened" or "Through-hardened"? Either way, ditto on the >> cobalt drill bits, or for hole sizes larger than #20, maybe even >> "solid carbide". >> >> FWIW, I do case hardening. It is typically done to give a >> wear-resistant surface on a part that otherwise needs to be somewhat >> ductile underneath - which won't be the metal's strongest state. > But do you really want to use hardened bolts anchored in aluminum? > Lynn said it the other day. It would be better to choose a bolt where > you could get some stretch out of it before it pulls out of the anchor > material. > Ernest, Generally, there isn't much choice. Threaded fastener specifications normally include some degree of heat-treating - hardening and then drawing the temper to achieve a "grade" of hardness. I have seen bolts made from aluminum, but I don't know as I'd want to use them on any critical component of an airplane. Yes internal threads in aluminum aren't as strong as those in steel, but we see steel cap screws in aluminum threads in all kinds of automotive applications. The strength of an internal thread in aluminum can be improved by swaging the thread with a thread-former instead of cutting it with a conventional tap. Dale R. COZY MkIV #0497 Ch. 12; Ch's 13, 16, 22 and 23 in-progress