X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.5) with ESMTP id 3045667 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:46:39 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.121; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from computername ([75.191.186.236]) by cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20080728164558.HBNC18001.cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com@computername> for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:45:58 +0000 From: "Ed Anderson" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Safety wire Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:46:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C8F0AF.E659B180" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Acjwzf1gGGLnimxZTOC6pBWE14Ak0wAAuvIg In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Message-Id: <20080728164558.HBNC18001.cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com@computername> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C8F0AF.E659B180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That=92s impressive, Bill. I don=92t think (as Lynn said) and aircraft = ever came out of the sky because of safety wire =96 but plenty have because lack = of it. However, some bolts and such on the rotary, you would need to drill the heads/nuts yourself =96 in that case, I=92m think I would look to other alternatives as drilling a bolt head or threaded part could weaken it. Fortunately, the vibration level is lot lower on the rotary compared to = most reciprocating engines. =20 By the way, I=92ll bet you even wire the 37 deg AN fittings as well = {:>) =20 Ed =20 Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html _____ =20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of wrjjrs@aol.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 12:21 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Safety wire =20 Keith, there will be many divergent opinions on this I'm sure. My personal = mantra is safety wire anything you don't want to fall off! There are several approaches too. I am an ex motorcycle racer and the rules required all = basic safety items to be wired. Those were, all oil drains, water drain plugs = if any, brake mount bolts, and oil feed bolts and filters. I would usually = do more than was required. I have seen many things vibrate off that you wouldn't think possible when operating at high power levels. I would use both .039 and .025 stainless steel safety wire. The .025 isn't FAA = approved on a lot of things, but it's light and serves the purpose. I even wired 39=B0AN fittings, which isn't required. Bill Jepson -----Original Message----- From: ktradcliff@comcast.net To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 5:07 pm Subject: [FlyRotary] Safety wire Hello everyone, =20 I know that the subject of safety wire has been discussed many times = before, however searching the archives can at times be very difficult and = actually=20 finding the answer you want is like winning the lottery (it never = happens). What I would like to know is what most are considering an absolute must = to be=20 safety wired. What the FAA r equires and what is not so important but some are=20 doing anyway. I feel that the subject of safety can never be discussed enough. =20 I would like everyone that has an opinion on safety wire and what must = be safety=20 wired to weigh in on this subject. I plan to save some if not all of = your=20 answers for future reference. Maybe we can make a list of what must be safety=20 wired. =20 Thanks Keith RV-7A 13-B=20 =20 -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html _____ =20 The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. Get = the TMZ Toolbar Now!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C8F0AF.E659B180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That’s impressive, Bill. I = don’t think (as Lynn = said) and aircraft ever came out of the sky because of safety wire – but = plenty have because lack of it.=A0 However, some bolts and such on the rotary, you = would need to drill the heads/nuts yourself – in that case, I’m think I = would look to other alternatives as drilling a bolt head or threaded part could weaken = it. Fortunately, the vibration level is lot lower on the rotary compared to most = reciprocating engines.

 

By the way, =A0=A0I’ll bet = you even wire the 37 deg AN fittings as well {:>)

 

Ed

 

Ed Anderson

Rv-6A N494BW Rotary = Powered

Matthews, NC

eanderson@carolina.rr.com=

http://www.andersonee.com

http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs= .htm#N494BW

http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of wrjjrs@aol.com
Sent: Monday, July 28, = 2008 12:21 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Safety wire

 

Keith,
there will be many divergent opinions on this I'm sure. My personal = mantra is safety wire anything you don't want to fall off! There are several = approaches too. I am an ex motorcycle racer and the rules required all basic safety = items to be wired. Those were, all oil drains, water drain plugs if any, brake = mount bolts, and oil feed bolts and filters. I would usually do more than was required. I have seen many things vibrate off that you wouldn't think = possible when operating at high power levels. I would use both .039 and .025 = stainless steel safety wire. The .025 isn't FAA approved on a lot of things, = but it's light and serves the purpose. I even wired 39=B0AN fittings, which = isn't required.
Bill Jepson


-----Original Message-----
From: ktradcliff@comcast.net
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 5:07 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] Safety wire

Hello =
everyone,
 
I know that the subject of safety =
wire has been discussed many times before,=A0 =

however searching the archives =
can at times be very difficult and actually =

finding the answer you want is =
like winning the lottery (it never happens).=A0 =

What I would like to know is what =
most are considering an absolute must to be =

safety wired.=A0 What the FAA =
r
equires and what is not so =
important but some are 
doing anyway.=A0 I feel that the =
subject of safety can never be discussed enough.=A0 =

I would like everyone that has an =
opinion on safety wire and what must be safety =

wired to weigh in on this =
subject.=A0 I plan to save some if not all of your =

answers for future reference.=A0 =
Maybe we can make a list of what must be safety =

wired.
 
Thanks
Keith
RV-7A
13-B =

 
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