X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.96] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.5) with ESMTP id 3039411 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:15:23 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.30.96; envelope-from=ktradcliff@comcast.net Received: from OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.60]) by QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tWCZ1Z04T1HpZEsA9bElqj; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:14:45 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter77.comcast.net ([204.127.197.177]) by OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tbEl1Z0083q7v908abEl6r; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:14:45 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=msO46qKVZWgA:10 a=byCXVCVTZ30A:10 a=sKTMQ6IfDugluWrgMYgA:9 a=SOW7CVHns6XKT_HZNzQA:9 a=fUaZU9Dr0aIcv4VTvsUA:7 a=hggFEIYsUuMcPh7VDk1wb95UQFIA:4 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=c5zHXd76wwQA:10 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=ZHwG2C5sB2Nv_QsKVLYA:9 a=WcsQTBeCouNiLAuENqcA:9 a=2tGw32hH5gI7_BK7MFsA:7 a=J0RTC8I9JGTVVorgOboG1-UEqroA:4 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=iYlkOlhu7C0A:10 Received: from [67.171.184.132] by rmailcenter77.comcast.net; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:14:44 +0000 From: ktradcliff@comcast.net To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Sealing oil pan motor mount hole Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:14:44 +0000 Message-Id: <072320082314.9557.4887BB640001F39C000025552200751090000007040C0B0E9D9B05@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: a3RyYWRjbGlmZkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9557_1216854884_0" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9557_1216854884_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The washers sound like an excellent idea Kelly and most likely will work, however there might be an issue with keeping everything lined up and in place. It might not be to much of a problem on an engine stand with the engine upside down (note: it might not) but with the engine mounted in a flying aircraft with the engine right side up there will be a problem. Maybe some kind of bushing will work; but again lining it up. Engine stand upside down easy, right side up problem. Suggestions Please -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Kelly Troyer" > Keith, Yes the 84-85 13B pan will fit........The two larger bolt holes for the > engine mount on the > center housing are not drilled on the 84-84 13B pan but the small 6 mm bolt hole > (Standard > pan bolts) is already drilled and threaded on your center housing (My 88 housing > is) and will > match up with the early pan so there is no need to drill the pan for the larger > bolts........One > other suggestion would be to make a spacer (stack of wide area washers ?) to fit > in the space > between your existing pan and the CCI plate and go ahead and drill the plate for > a bolt and > sealing washer..........Should not be a major problem IMHO......... > -- > Kelly Troyer > "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 > "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9557_1216854884_0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: "Kelly Troyer" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Sealing oil pan motor mount hole Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:52:37 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9557_1216854884_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9557_1216854884_1 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_11812_1216824715_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_11812_1216824715_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
   Keith,
      Yes the 84-85 13B pan will fit........T= he two larger bolt holes for the engine mount on the
center housing are not drilled on the 84-84 13B pan but the small 6 mm= bolt hole (Standard
pan bolts) is already drilled and threaded on your center housing (My = 88 housing is) and will
match up with the early pan so there is no need to drill the pan for t= he larger bolts........One
other suggestion would be to make a spacer (stack of wide area washers= ?) to fit in the space
between your existing pan and the CCI plate and go ahead and drill the= plate for a bolt and
sealing washer..........Should not be a major problem IMHO.........
--
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_1= 3B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifol= d



 
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> If I can find o= ne; Will a 1984 - 85 rx-7 stock oil pan fit the 1987 rx-7 block
> bo= lt for bolt with no modification?
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&= gt; -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "= Kelly Troyer"
> > Keith, > In an ideal situati= on you could find an 1984-5 RX7 13B pan that does not
> have
>= ; > that > extra bolt hole in it as the mounts were still on the fron= t
> cover...........But
> > since you
> > probab= ly cannot find one I have a question.........Since I am not totally
>= ; > familar with the
> > CCI mount plate is the spot on the pl= ate under the extra oil pan bolt open or
> > would
> > = you have to drill a hole for access to the threaded boss in the center hous= ing
> > ?..........
> > I do not remember what the bolt= size is (probably 12 or 14 mm) but if this
> > hole fits
>= ; > flush with the CCI plate then a large headed bolt and copper gasket = might seal
> > it !!
> >
> > FWIW
> &g= t; --
> > Kelly Troyer
> > "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engi= ne
> > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
> > "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil M= anifold
> >
> >
> >
> >
> &g= t;
> > -------------- Original message from ktradcliff@comcast.ne= t: --------------
> >
> >
> > > I am using= the stock 13b oil pan along with the cci motor mount. The stock
> 1= 3b
> > > oil pan has 3 motor mount holes that are utilized whe= n mounted in the car.
> In
> > > aircraft application w= ith the cci mount only two of the three bolt holes are
> > > u= sed. I am looking for the best method to seal this extra hole. Are some > > > choosing to weld this hole (although this is a very importa= nt piece to the
> bed
> > > mount and needs to maintain= a good seal, and a bad weld may warp the thin
> > pan)?
>= > > Or would a locking nut and bolt with some type of gasket maker d= o the trick?
> > > Possible some type of expandable plug like = the ones used in a boats? Not
> sure
> > > what to do l= ooking for the best answer.
> > >
> > > Thanks > > > Keith
> > > RV-7A
> > > 13b
= > > > With all of Tracy's stuff
> > > CCI Engine moun= t
> > >
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> > > Homepage: htt= p://www.flyrotary.com/
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