X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [207.115.11.52] (HELO fmailhost01.isp.att.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTP id 2938393 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 25 May 2008 20:43:16 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.115.11.52; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: from fwebmail06.isp.att.net ([204.127.218.106]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc02) with SMTP id <20080526004235H0200ets0de>; Mon, 26 May 2008 00:42:35 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [204.127.218.106] Received: from [4.245.51.49] by fwebmail06.isp.att.net; Mon, 26 May 2008 00:42:35 +0000 From: "Kelly Troyer" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Off Topic Question for Lynn Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 00:42:35 +0000 Message-Id: <052620080042.14545.483A0779000EE8B7000038D122230682329B0A02D29B9B0EBF019D9B040A05@att.net> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 10 2008) X-Authenticated-Sender: a2VsdHJvQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_14545_1211762555_0" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_14545_1211762555_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bob, My 91 transmission input shaft has maybe 0.20 lateral play(WAG)........Could be a little more.......... -- Kelly Troyer "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold -------------- Original message from Bob White : -------------- > Thanks Kelly, > > I just placed an order with Mazdatrix this morning for the clutch parts > I need. I bought their Centerforce I pressure plate and clutch disk, > new pilot bearing (didn't know it wasn't a bushing), alignment tool, > and a few other pieces I thought I might need. Maybe the transmission > is OK. > > On a related subject, the gear shift is located about 10-12 inches back > with a round shaft connecting to the shifting mechanism inside the > transmission. Would it be difficult, or even possible to shorten that > shaft? I think the stock location will be too far back in the Alpine. > > Bob W. > > On Sat, 24 May 2008 01:17:55 +0000 > "Kelly Troyer" wrote: > > > Bob, > > I still have the transmission from the 91 RX7 that your flywheel > > came from........I will check the side play for you tomorrow.......... > > > > From past experience with manual transmissions the input shaft > > had what one would consider a lot of play at the pilot end of the > > shaft then not supported by the pilot bearing.......By the way the > > RX7 pilot bearing is an actual bearing and not a bushing.......By > > all means I would replace it..........It can be a bear to get out........ > > > > There is a special puller sold by the Madza part suppliers but it > > is pricy........Some on the list have ground them out but be careful > > not to enlarge or make the pilot bore out of round..........FWIW > > -- > > Kelly Troyer > > "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine > > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 > > "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- Original message from Bob White : > -------------- > > > > > > > Question for Lynn (or anyone else that might know). How much play > > > should there be in the transmission input shaft? (side to side not in > > > and out) > > > > > > The reason I ask, is that when I pulled the transmission out of the > > > RX-7, there were some small metal bits that appear to be from the pilot > > > bushing. Just a couple of small crescent slivers. The transmission > > > input shaft can be wiggled around at least a few thousands. I'll have > > > to get some more instrumentation for a better measure. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Bob W. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com > > > 3.8 Hours Total Time and holding > > > Cables for your rotary installation - http://roblinstores.com/cables/ > > > > > > -- > > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com > 3.8 Hours Total Time and holding > Cables for your rotary installation - http://roblinstores.com/cables/ > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_14545_1211762555_0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_14545_1211762555_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_14545_1211762555_1 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Bob,
   My 91 transmission input shaft has maybe 0.20 lateral play(WAG)........Could be a little more..........
--
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold



 
-------------- Original message from Bob White <bob@bob-white.com>: --------------


> Thanks Kelly,
>
> I just placed an order with Mazdatrix this morning for the clutch parts
> I need. I bought their Centerforce I pressure plate and clutch disk,
> new pilot bearing (didn't know it wasn't a bushing), alignment tool,
> and a few other pieces I thought I might need. Maybe the transmission
> is OK.
>
> On a related subject, the gear shift is located about 10-12 inches back
> with a round shaft connecting to the shifting mechanism inside the
> transmission. Would it be difficult, or even possible to shorten that
> shaft? I think the stock location will be too far back in the Alpine.
>
> Bob W.
>
> On Sat, 24 May 2008 01:17:55 +0000
> "Kelly Troyer" wrote :
>
> > Bob,
> > I still have the transmission from the 91 RX7 that your flywheel
> > came from........I will check the side play for you tomorrow..........
> >
> > From past experience with manual transmissions the input shaft
> > had what one would consider a lot of play at the pilot end of the
> > shaft then not supported by the pilot bearing.......By the way the
> > RX7 pilot bearing is an actual bearing and not a bushing.......By
> > all means I would replace it..........It can be a bear to get out........
> >
> > There is a special puller sold by the Madza part suppliers but it
> > is pricy........Some on the list have ground them out but be careful
> > not to enlarge or make the pilot bore out of round..........FWIW
> > --
> > Kelly Troyer
> > "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
> > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
> > "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message from Bob White :
> --------------
> >
> >
> > > Question for Lynn (or anyone else that might know). How much play
> > > should there be in the transmission input shaft? (side to side not in
> > > and out)
> > >
> > > The reason I ask, is that when I pulled the transmission out of the
> > > RX-7, there were some small metal bits that appear to be from the pilot
> > > bushing. Just a couple of small crescent slivers. The transmission
> > > input shaft can be wiggled around at least a few thousands. I'll have
> > > to get some more instrumentation for a better measure.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bob W.
> > >
> & gt; >
> > >
> > > --
> > > N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com
> > > 3.8 Hours Total Time and holding
> > > Cables for your rotary installation - http://roblinstores.com/cables/
> > >
> > > --
> > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/
> > > Archive and UnSub:
> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html
>
>
> --
> N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com
> 3.8 Hours Total Time and holding
> Cables for your rotary installation - http://roblinstores.com/cables/
>
> --
> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/
> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html
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