X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.239] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.2) with ESMTP id 2873086 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 26 Apr 2008 10:31:52 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.249.82.239; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so3954820wxd.25 for ; Sat, 26 Apr 2008 07:31:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=uKGGFJ7Ji/DH9WiWDXV3Kqr0oNJRlGElS3BdhXsNN4g=; b=HZ/SbLKU3led48tyWkqDUz9fco3gfu1uRg4/pL52t7PQ0RIyYSW1IXZ4jWdJBt9txb3ILLYsZYABAeozuAW5fK/wUaGGNHITHzdVnuRWoIT/FtViLZMXQ4qWSG8MxNz8dwpD1STTVMlSZ985/wzZvS3be0EQy2Zuptz208G0XC0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=k/IMgCcQRigWZCSnuD6coB3qG5zHsaoroGmeQZR5//EHQtkDDRdRajp3mtl1jP4PTguQa6cQ5Xv+WAoHyd8zSikLtbh3ioLA1BSxSqZZKilmIOfcPLoYPqjM897oz+tQIOh1OyCMHlcdCSiUe1L73VS58ompJ+e53iVw7A6Qcig= Received: by 10.70.53.17 with SMTP id b17mr6827586wxa.6.1209220273474; Sat, 26 Apr 2008 07:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.94.10 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Apr 2008 07:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5cf132c0804260731n14d5ae44w9de1468b28005a3e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:31:13 -0500 From: "Mark Steitle" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 1600 CC rotary Development engine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_729_20377683.1209220273444" References: ------=_Part_729_20377683.1209220273444 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Ed, Cool video. Love that sound! Too bad the 3-rotor will likely never be produced in mass again. Good thing it will most likely outlast my flying career. Mark (not Mike) On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Ed Anderson wrote: > Ah, Mike. You think perhaps you joke about the 24B. Take a look at the > video of this Mazda Concept car With perhaps a 24B in it!!! If the 2 rotor > 1600cc is suppose to put out around 250HP the 3 rotor 1600 should blow > everything with pistons out of the air (figurative speaking of course) > > http://www.mazdarxnews.com/ > > Ed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Mark Steitle > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Sent:* Saturday, April 26, 2008 8:55 AM > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: 1600 CC rotary Development engine > > ...and I may just wait for the 24B. ;-) > > Mark > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Ed Anderson > wrote: > > > Glad you got it off, Bob. Sometimes having been there before can pay > > off {:>) > > > > Yes, compared to the car installation, even our busiest aircraft > > installation looks anemic. > > > > Well, rather than replace my older 91 13B with a Renesis, I may just > > wait for the 16B (but, I won't hold my breath {:>)) > > > > Ed > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob White" > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 9:55 PM > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 1600 CC rotary Development engine > > > > > > Hi Ed, > > > > > > Your off list help on the number of studs on the RX-7 throttle body > > > paid > > > off. I never could see the fourth nut, but I stuck a socket and > > > extension on the fourth corner and it locked on to something. After > > > turning it a while, the throttle body came right off. > > > > > > I always wondered why people would let the oil injector feed lines get > > > brittle and crack without checking them once in a while. Now I know. > > > Who the hell could ever find them without a shop manual. There are > > > more hoses, wires, and devices attached to that engine and I don't > > > even > > > want to know what they are for. > > > > > > The 1600 cc engine is beautiful, thanks for the pictures. If they put > > > it in a car, they will add so much junk that you won't ever see the > > > engine. > > > > > > I like old cars with a few modern improvements, like electronic > > > ignition and EFI. This week I started my '74 Suburban for the first > > > time in a year. It has electronic ignition, manual choke, and an > > > electric fuel pump. After charging the battery overnight, it started > > > right up. After 60 miles on the highway it was running as good as > > > ever. (That only cost me about 25 bucks for gas which is why it > > > hadn't been started for a year.) > > > > > > Bob W. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:18:16 -0400 > > > "Ed Anderson" wrote: > > > > > > Things been a bit quite of recently. How about a view of the 1600 cc > > > > rotary under development by Mazda. Those aluminum side housing sure look > > > > nice. Rotor is thinner but larger in diameter with a larger throw on the > > > > eccentric shaft for more torque at all rpm. Saving my pennies. > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > > > The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link > > > > attachments: > > > > 13SparkPlugs.jpg > > > > > > > > Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may > > > > prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. 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Cool video.  Love that sound!  Too bad the 3-rotor will likely never be produced in mass again.  Good thing it will most likely outlast my flying career. 

Mark (not Mike)


On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
Ah, Mike.  You think perhaps you joke about the 24B.  Take a look at the video of this Mazda Concept car With perhaps a 24B in it!!!  If the 2 rotor 1600cc is suppose to put out around 250HP the 3 rotor 1600 should blow everything with pistons out of the air (figurative speaking of course)
 
 
Ed
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Steitle
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 8:55 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 1600 CC rotary Development engine

...and I may just wait for the 24B.  ;-)

Mark

On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
Glad you got it off, Bob.  Sometimes having been there before can pay off {:>)

Yes, compared to the car installation, even our busiest aircraft installation looks anemic.

Well, rather than replace my older 91 13B with  a Renesis, I may just wait for the 16B (but, I won't hold my breath {:>))

Ed
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob White" <bob@bob-white.com>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 9:55 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 1600 CC rotary Development engine


Hi Ed,

Your off list help on the number of studs on the RX-7 throttle body paid
off.  I never could see the fourth nut, but I stuck a socket and
extension on the fourth corner and it locked on to something.  After
turning it a while, the throttle body came right off.

I always wondered why people would let the oil injector feed lines get
brittle and crack without checking them once in a while.  Now I know.
Who the hell could ever find them without a shop manual.  There are
more hoses, wires, and devices attached to that engine and I don't even
want to know what they are for.

The 1600 cc engine is beautiful, thanks for the pictures.  If they put
it in a car, they will add so much junk that you won't ever see the
engine.

I like old cars with a few modern improvements, like electronic
ignition and EFI.  This week I started my '74 Suburban for the first
time in a year.  It has electronic ignition, manual choke, and an
electric fuel pump.  After charging the battery overnight, it started
right up.  After 60 miles on the highway it was running as good as
ever.  (That only cost me about 25 bucks for gas which is why it
hadn't been started for a year.)

Bob W.





On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:18:16 -0400
"Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:

Things been a bit quite of recently.  How about a view of the 1600 cc rotary under development by Mazda.  Those aluminum side housing sure look nice.  Rotor is thinner but larger in diameter with a larger throw on the eccentric shaft for more torque at all rpm.  Saving my pennies.

Ed

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