X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.2) with ESMTP id 2864472 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:11:55 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.121; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 ([75.191.186.236]) by cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com with SMTP id <20080420211113.YIXX5568.cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com@edward2> for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:11:13 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c8a32a$cd194b40$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: New Radiator Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:09:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8A309.45D0BCC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8A309.45D0BCC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That does sound like a great price, Steve. Well, 850 cubic inches will = help with the ground cooling - my total capacity runs around 650 cubic = inches and does fine on the ground on all but the 90+F days - granted = with the help of the wind mill up front. You might give it a try on the = ground without the fan - you may not really need it. Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Steve Brooks=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 2:57 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New Radiator Ed, It is hard to beat $5 each. Tapp wasn't too bad at all on the = radiator though. The radiator itself was $375 plus shipping. I just = got back fro the airport. I tore out the old evaporator cores and = fiberglass plenum. The new radiator is too big to fit the way Intended. = The actual radiator, as I found out, is actually 15.75 by 22.75. = Slightly larger than the dimensions I gave them, but even at 22" it = wouldn't go in as I intended to mount it. I'm going to have to mount it more horizontal. By relocating the fuel = filters and fuel pumps, I can get about a 30 degree angle, and enough = spacing to get a diffuser built that should do a good job of air = distribution. The bad news is that I won't be able to put the cooling = fan in as I planned for ground operation. I'll have to come up with a = different plan for it. =20 Regards, Steve Brooks =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On = Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 10:42 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New Radiator =20 Ok, Steve, that gives 852 cubic inches, so that should provide more = than adequate core for cooling.=20 =20 I keep saying I should swap out my old GM Freon Evaporator cores for = real radiators designed for coolant flow - I have to believe there would = be an improvement. However, each time the $700-$900 price tag rears its = ugly head - especially given that I now have over 10 years flying time = on the two $5 GM cores and no cooling problems. =20 Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Steve Brooks=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 10:31 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New Radiator =20 Ed, Tapp Inc, in Sophia, NC made the radiator, and the core is 2.5" thick = / =20 Steve =20 -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On = Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:04 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New Radiator =20 Nice looking work, Steve. Where did you have it make? What is its = thickness? =20 Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Steve Brooks=20 =20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 7:18 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] New Radiator =20 Here is a photo of the new radiator. 15.5" X 22" overall - Double = pass - end tank is not very big - about an inch. Keeps the core as = large as possible. =20 Regards, Steve Brooks Cozy n75cz -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8A309.45D0BCC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That does sound like a great price, = Steve. =20 Well, 850 cubic inches will help with the ground cooling - my total = capacity runs  around 650 cubic inches and does fine on the ground = on all=20 but the 90+F days - granted with the help of the wind mill up = front.  You=20 might give it a try on the ground  without the fan - you may not = really=20 need it.
 
Ed
 
 
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From:=20 Steve=20 Brooks
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 = 2:57=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New=20 Radiator

Ed,

It is=20 hard to beat $5 each.  = Tapp wasn=92t=20 too bad at all on the radiator though. =20 The radiator itself was $375 plus shipping.  I just got back fro the = airport.  I tore out the old = evaporator cores=20 and fiberglass plenum.  = The new=20 radiator is too big to fit the way Intended.  The actual radiator, as I = found out,=20 is actually 15.75 by 22.75. =20 Slightly larger than the dimensions I gave them, but even at = 22=94 it=20 wouldn=92t go in as I intended to mount = it.

I=92m=20 going to have to mount it more horizontal.  By relocating the fuel = filters and=20 fuel pumps, I can get about a 30 degree angle, and enough spacing to = get a=20 diffuser built that should do a good job of air distribution.  The bad news is that I = won=92t be able=20 to put the cooling fan in as I planned for ground operation.  I=92ll have to come up with = a different=20 plan for it.

 

Regards,

Steve=20 Brooks

 

 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: = Rotary=20 motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Ed = Anderson
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 = 10:42=20 AM
To: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary]=20 Re: New Radiator

 

Ok,=20 Steve, that gives 852 cubic inches, so that should provide more = than=20 adequate core for cooling. 

 

 I=20 keep saying I should swap out my old GM Freon Evaporator cores for = real=20 radiators designed for coolant flow - I have to believe there would be = an=20 improvement.  However, each time the $700-$900 price tag rears = its ugly=20 head - especially given that I now have over 10 years flying time on = the two=20 $5 GM cores and no cooling problems.

 

Ed

----- = Original=20 Message -----

From: Steve Brooks=20

To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20

Sent: Sunday, = April 20,=20 2008 10:31 AM

Subject: = [FlyRotary] Re: New=20 Radiator

 

Ed,

Tapp=20 Inc, in Sophia, NC made the radiator, and the core is 2.5=94 thick=20 /

 

Steve

 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: = Rotary=20 motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Ed = Anderson
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 = 8:04=20 AM
To: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary]=20 Re: New Radiator

 

Nice=20 looking work, Steve.  Where did you have it make? What is its=20 thickness?

 

Ed

----- = Original=20 Message -----

From: Steve Brooks=20

 

To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20

Sent: Sunday, = April 20,=20 2008 7:18 AM

Subject: = [FlyRotary] New=20 Radiator

 

Here=20 is a photo of the new radiator. =20 15.5=94 X 22=94 overall  = -=20 Double pass =96 end tank is not very big =96 about an inch.  Keeps the core as large as=20 possible.

 

Regards,

Steve=20 Brooks

Cozy=20 n75cz

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