X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with ESMTP id 2505197 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:57:42 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.120; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 ([24.74.103.61]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with SMTP id <20071126125704.PDIF19167.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@edward2> for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:57:04 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01c8302c$38599b70$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] exhausting work Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:59:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Looks like it may have some merit in muting the exhaust a bit. The problem I had when experimenting with exhaust was that anything which presented a flat surface to the exhaust pulse simply did not live long. Even 1/8" thick stainless steel plates were destroyed. Now a cone or some shape that deflected rather than brute force tried to break up the exhaust pulse may well survive quite a bit longer. I finally got tired to almost having success - the disks fabricated to look like a pin wheel came the closest to being successful. It really muted the exhaust, but the disks soon broke loose and beginning to spin like a turbine wheel in that exhaust and like a wind milling prop resisted the exhaust flow. I ended up with EGT 150-200 deg higher than normal and rpm limited to 6000. The first (ignored) clue that the disks were spinning, was when I was told by a hangar mate that on take off it sounded like I had a turbine under the cowl. Yeah, Yeah a poor man's turbine - a rotary, well it turned out he was right, it sounded like a turbine because the exhaust flow was being broken up by the spinning discs (and they were really spinning) at a very high rpm. So I am now flying with HushPower II mufflers and I'll leave further experimenting with exhaust to a new spirit {:>) ED ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie England" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:16 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] exhausting work > While re-perusing an old article to answer a question on another list, I > noticed something about coanda nozzles that might be of interest to rotary > fans. It mentions that while there is no performance increase, it does > seem to 'mellow' the exhaust sound. I wonder if this might survive the > rotary pulses better than other pulse breaking techniques & help take the > edge off the rotary bark. (Although it might be a moot point if everyone > adopts Dennis Haverlauh's system for the Renesis.) > > http://cafefoundation.org/v2/pdf_cafe_reports/EPG%20PART%20IV.pdf > > Charlie > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >