Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #40265
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Total,duct, Ambient or Velocity????
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:44:35 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Good to hear, Monty, I'll save my money for snazzy video games {:>)
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: M Roberts
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:27 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Total,duct, Ambient or Velocity????

But, semantics aside, yes, I agree, lower exit pressure is what you are after and that does not always equate to larger exit duct area.  In fact, if the air heated by the core flows through a nozzle it might even produce thrust and lower exit pressure using a smaller exit.  But, in general, I still believe that in most of our cases, we are short of the level of duct design that would reliably permit that.  What we need is someone to invest in one of those $$$$ Computer Fluid Flow software programs and see what they would reveal.
 
Ed
 
 
Ed,
 
I have to disagree with the big $$$ CFD idea. Until I see proper exit ducts and every effort made to do things right inlet wise....CFD is a waste of time. I have yet to see an installation at the level of refinement where CFD would start to make sense. You can get to 90% of optimum by following a few simple guidelines and some fairly simple math.
 
1.) do a heat balance at the cruise condition to figure out how much air you need to ingest.
 
2.) Size your inlet appropriately.
 
3.) Provide a real exit duct.
 
4.) Use a cowl flap.
 
5.) Do some testing with oil and tufts to make improvements.
 
A properly done CFD will only get you another 5% beyond these simple steps that are within reach of mere mortals. In fact if the guy/gal doing the CFD work is not intimately familiar with the situation and what sort of assumptions to make/conditions to assign it is very likely that the results will be less successful that the empirical method.
 
In other words CFD=decimal dust.
 
 
Monty
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