X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao107.cox.net ([68.230.241.39] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with ESMTP id 2450437 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:25:57 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.39; envelope-from=dale.r@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo01.cox.net ([70.169.32.71]) by fed1rmmtao107.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20071101172519.LYMM22006.fed1rmmtao107.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:25:19 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.104] ([72.223.50.74]) by fed1rmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id 7VRH1Y00N1c3B5k0000000; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:25:17 -0400 Message-ID: <472A0BFC.10407@cox.net> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:25:16 -0700 From: Dale Rogers User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Copperstate Fly-in report (interim) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010003010306060609010809" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010003010306060609010809 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, I'll have to 'fess up that the question was /somewhat/ rhetorical. I've been on this list - what? - five or six years now? So I have a fair idea of what folks on this list have dealt with ... or not ... but no personal experience. I mainly wanted folks to know what was being said in Al Gietzen's absence. I have great hopes that when I finally get an EC-2, it will fire on the first go. My wire harness is using colored insulation and tracers, so it shouldn't be difficult to verify every connection. But with me trying to build not only the engine, but the rest of the airplane, AND work 60-70 hour weeks on the "day" job, I'm not making near the progress I was hoping for. (I can't build during work hours, like Rusty!) Dale R. Mesa, AZ COZY MkIV #497, Ch. 12 Ch's. 13, 16, 19, 22 & 23 in-progress Ernest Christley wrote: > Tracy Crook wrote: >> Dale wrote: >> >> Was he (P.L.) accurate, when he stated that everyone who has used the >> EC2 has had problems? >> >> >> Other builder results are all over the map from "fired it up and it >> ran perfect" to " I almost gave up before it finally ran right". In >> a world populated by mere mortals, this is perfectly normal. >> To summarize, YMMV. >> >> Tracy > > To emphasize what Tracy is saying: > > I built an RST-Engineering panel mount intercom. It's one of Jim > Weir's kit build projects. Went off without a hitch, and just worked. > > > I installed...not built, just INSTALLED...my ICOM radio, and spent > three days trying to make it work. You know ICOM. The simplest radio > available, whose installation should be braindead simple for the guy > that just soldered an entire intercom together. None of the problems > with the installation could in any way be blamed on ICOM. In fact, I > credit ICOM with building a radio robust enough to survive my bumbling. > > Saying something along the lines of "builders have had problems" is a > stupid statement in a casual conversation, and nothing short of > irresponsible in a forum without investigating each problem to see if > it was the product or the color blind illiterate that connects the > green and red wire reversed. We're not doing rocket science here, but > it is measurably more complicated than the typical consumer electronics. > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > --------------010003010306060609010809 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, I'll have to 'fess up that the question was somewhat rhetorical. I've been on this list - what? - five or six years now? So I have a fair idea of what folks on this list have dealt with ... or not ... but no personal experience. I mainly wanted folks to know what was being said in Al Gietzen's absence.

I have great hopes that when I finally get an EC-2, it will fire on the first go. My wire harness is using colored insulation and tracers, so it shouldn't be difficult to verify every connection. But with me trying to build not only the engine, but the rest of the airplane, AND work 60-70 hour weeks on the "day" job, I'm not making near the progress I was hoping for. (I can't build during work hours, like Rusty!)

Dale R.
Mesa, AZ
COZY MkIV #497, Ch. 12
Ch's. 13, 16, 19, 22 & 23 in-progress

Ernest Christley wrote:

Tracy Crook wrote:

Dale wrote:

Was he (P.L.) accurate, when he stated that everyone who has used the EC2 has had problems?

Other builder results are all over the map from "fired it up and it ran perfect" to " I almost gave up before it finally ran right". In a world populated by mere mortals, this is perfectly normal.
To summarize, YMMV.

Tracy

To emphasize what Tracy is saying:

I built an RST-Engineering panel mount intercom. It's one of Jim Weir's kit build projects. Went off without a hitch, and just worked.

I installed...not built, just INSTALLED...my ICOM radio, and spent three days trying to make it work. You know ICOM. The simplest radio available, whose installation should be braindead simple for the guy that just soldered an entire intercom together. None of the problems with the installation could in any way be blamed on ICOM. In fact, I credit ICOM with building a radio robust enough to survive my bumbling.

Saying something along the lines of "builders have had problems" is a stupid statement in a casual conversation, and nothing short of irresponsible in a forum without investigating each problem to see if it was the product or the color blind illiterate that connects the green and red wire reversed. We're not doing rocket science here, but it is measurably more complicated than the typical consumer electronics.

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