X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.12) with ESMTP id 2401197 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:33:43 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.121; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 ([24.74.103.61]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with SMTP id <20071023003306.BURU8967.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@edward2> for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 00:33:06 +0000 Message-ID: <002301c8150c$0187d890$2502a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: A New Radically Different Oil to Water Heat Exchanger Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:31:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C814EA.79F7E0D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C814EA.79F7E0D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ed, Don't know anymore than I read. However, since you build these type of = things, I would think it might be worth $14.00 to get the paper and find = out. Anybody can made claims and there was not sufficient information = there to form any sort of conclusion. You can always tailor a design to = give you the maximum in one area at the expense of some other area. The = real secret is having a design that does it all (or most all) well.=20 For instance, you can get a large deltaT with air flow through a = radiator by simply slowing down the air flow through it. Now according = to some folks that is the cat's meow. However, due to the slow mass = flow you won't be removing much heat from the radiator/engine which is = the real objective. So balancing the warring aerodynamic and = thermodynamic aspects of heat transfer in any design is the real secret = (in my opinion).. You mention seeing us seeing a heat exchanger at Tracy's. I presume you = sent some of your work there for viewing at the Rotary round up?? Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ed Klepeis=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: A New Radically Different Oil to Water Heat = Exchanger Dear Ed Being that I respect you opinion and advice what do you make of = this mat. is it worth buying the tech papers to show people at air shows = what has been found technically not opinion (the pope Paul) on this = subject. = Regards PS one of these oil/water coolers is at tracy's house already = = Ed Klepeis ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ed Anderson=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 10:33 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] A New Radically Different Oil to Water Heat = Exchanger For some of you considering a coolant/oil heat exchanger in your = installation might want to explore this items more. Claims a 5 times = greater performance than your regular coolant/oil heat exchanger. Not = certain that this is anymore than an experimental prototype or concept. = But, for you to decide. http://www.sae.org/technical/papers/912717 Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C814EA.79F7E0D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Ed,
 
Don't know anymore than I read.  However, = since you=20 build these type of things, I would think it might be worth $14.00 to = get the=20 paper and find out.
 
   Anybody can made claims and there = was not=20 sufficient information there to form any sort of conclusion.  You = can=20 always tailor a design to give you the maximum in one area at the = expense of=20 some other area.  The real secret is having a design that does it = all (or=20 most all) well. 
 
   For instance, you can get a large = deltaT with=20 air flow through a radiator by simply  slowing down the air flow = through=20 it.  Now according to some folks that is the cat's meow.  = However, due=20 to the slow mass flow you won't be removing much heat from the = radiator/engine=20 which is the real objective.   So balancing the warring=20 aerodynamic  and thermodynamic aspects of heat transfer in any = design is=20 the real secret (in my opinion)..
 
You mention seeing us seeing a heat exchanger at = Tracy's.  I presume you sent some of your work there for viewing at = the=20 Rotary round up??
 
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ed=20 Klepeis
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 = 8:19=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: A New = Radically=20 Different Oil to Water Heat Exchanger

Dear Ed
       = Being that I=20 respect you opinion and advice what do you make of this mat. is it = worth=20 buying the tech papers to show people at air shows what has been found = technically not opinion (the pope Paul) on this subject.
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PS one of these oil/water coolers is = at tracy's=20 house already=20 =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;=20 Ed Klepeis
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ed Anderson
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Monday, October 22, = 2007 10:33=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] A New = Radically=20 Different Oil to Water Heat Exchanger

For some of you considering a coolant/oil = heat=20 exchanger in your installation might want to explore this items = more. =20 Claims a 5 times greater performance than your regular coolant/oil = heat=20 exchanger.  Not certain that this is anymore than an = experimental=20 prototype or concept.  But, for you to decide.
 
http://www.sae.org/te= chnical/papers/912717
 
Ed
 
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary=20 Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.comhttp://www.andersonee.com
http:/= /members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
http://www.dmack.net/mazda= /index.html
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