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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:47:22 -0500
From: "Thomas Jakits" <rotary.thjakits@gmail.com>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Hose clamp myth busters
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>  *A fire involving even a tiny amount of mercury produces a gas that can
> reduce your IQ to a dismal number in a few hours. Imagine 100 10 year olds
> with a 500 megaton capability.*
> **
>


.....That's a good one!

Then there is the one-time -use permanent clamp.
Best of all ( after wiggins, but usable on any normal hose end).
When it comes off, it has to be cut and a new one goes on.
Downside: you need a tool for it, on the other hand I have a $ 85.- (....and
that was 15 years ago) "Tiger wave" safety-wire pliers, with twist-direction
select.
Would think of re-using used safety-wire, would you.
So, for the die-hard, maybe hose-clamps work until the installation is
sorted out, then you go and buy the permanent clamp kit.....


One question to the wiggins style:
I saw them on the same helicopter brand/family, but the predecessor (AS350 -
clamps, SA319B, Alouette III - wiggins). As I see it it would be rather hard
to incorporate wiggins into a flexible hose system. THe older helo used
mainly hardlines connected with wiggins. With swagged ends, yes - but now we
are talking a rather pricey alternative. Might as well go with
threaded-style ends - pricey too.
Any wiggins idea?

TJ

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<div><em>A fire involving even a tiny amount of mercury produces a gas that can reduce your IQ to a dismal number in a few hours. Imagine 100 10 year olds with a 500 megaton capability.</em></div>
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<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>.....That&#39;s a good one!</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Then there is the one-time -use permanent clamp.</div>
<div>Best of all ( after wiggins, but usable on any normal hose end).</div>
<div>When it comes off, it has to be cut and a new one goes on.</div>
<div>Downside: you need a tool for it, on the other hand I have a $ 85.- (....and that was 15 years ago) &quot;Tiger wave&quot; safety-wire pliers, with twist-direction select.</div>
<div>Would think of re-using used safety-wire, would you.</div>
<div>So, for the die-hard, maybe hose-clamps work until the installation is sorted out, then you go and buy the permanent clamp kit.....</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>One question to the wiggins style:</div>
<div>I saw them on the same helicopter brand/family, but the predecessor (AS350 - clamps, SA319B, Alouette III - wiggins). As I see it it would be rather hard to incorporate wiggins into a flexible hose system. THe older helo used mainly hardlines connected with wiggins. With swagged ends, yes - but now we are talking a rather pricey alternative. Might as well go with threaded-style ends - pricey too.
</div>
<div>Any wiggins idea?</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>TJ</div><br>&nbsp;</div>

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