Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #39744
From: Al Wick <alwick@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Coolant Water Pressure
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 06:42:24 -0700
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Those pics worth a lot. One perspective I focus on is "large bubbles of air flowing thru the block are 10 times more significant than anything else." I think everyone agrees on that point.
 
Very likely you have air trapped in that upper radiator hose. That's one of two local high spots. It's in high flow area, so in theory it's very significant and going to affect cooling at high power settings. I like the suggestion to fire up engine and feel hose in that area. It will be cooler due to air.
 
Remember I suggested operating with 2 cups of air under cap? Definitely NOT a good idea with design that has rad cap part of radiator. That would be a disaster.
 
I also suggested having dynamic air bleed. It automatically removes air from main flow and allows it to rise out of flow. You can't. You don't have any higher components that are out of flow.
 
I delayed responding because I don't know what I'd do in your situation. You could cut top rad hose in half, install an aluminum tube at that high point. Then install shrader valve at top of aluminum tube. That would be one of the few ways to get that air out. But I don't think you have cowl clearance for that.
 
Aha! I'd cut off beaded upper hose tube from rad. Lower it, weld new tube at 45 degree angle so you are not trapping air. This would make your rad cap the only high point. May not need to lower it, just weld at 45 degree angle. Probably cost you $50 at local radiator shop.
 
-al wick
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 8:42 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Coolant Water Pressure

Ok, I recently upgraded my computer to Vista and had to download some software to get my camera to talk to it…So here are some pictures of my cooling install

 

Notice the bypass hole that you guys are talking about needing to plug.  This hole is in the housing which has been removed, so it is not a player.

The little rag you see on the oil line is a high tech way of checking for a leak. (I have one!)

 

The red wire is the air temp sensor for the air after the radiator.  It is on top of the fan.

Hoses are 1 ¼”  The temperature sensor was moved from the left side of the inlet to the top

But is reading temperature as it enters the engine after the radiator. (coolest place)

 

My overflow catch can.  I will be replacing this with a pressurized on as per Lynn’s suggestions in a previous post in order to introduce

An air cushion above the liquid under pressure so it will not be “locked”.

 

I am planning to try and put suction on the cowling at the exit with a leaf blower in addition to the prop blast and the small fan to see if an increase in

Air flowing will help.  I haven’t checked the sides of the radiator yet as I have been alone when running the engine….

All inputs appreciated.  I already know some things should be changed, so don’t hold back with the suggestions.

 

Thanks,

Bill B

 


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