X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 10 [X] Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao103.cox.net ([68.230.241.43] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.8) with ESMTP id 2021825 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 02 May 2007 13:28:18 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.43; envelope-from=tonyslongez@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo01.cox.net ([70.169.32.71]) by fed1rmmtao103.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.05.02.00 201-2174-114-20060621) with ESMTP id <20070502172724.OOOW1318.fed1rmmtao103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net>; Wed, 2 May 2007 13:27:24 -0400 Received: from fed1wml09.mgt.cox.net ([172.18.180.10]) by fed1rmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id uHTR1W0030DrMWL0000000; Wed, 02 May 2007 13:27:25 -0400 Received: from 72.193.240.142 by webmail.west.cox.net; Wed, 2 May 2007 13:27:25 -0400 Message-ID: <10658662.1178126845245.JavaMail.root@fed1wml09.mgt.cox.net> Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 10:27:25 -0700 From: To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Can anyone tell me if this will work Cc: Al Gietzen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal ---- Al Gietzen wrote:=20 > =20 >=20 > what I'm trying to do is figure out how to set up my racing beat intake > without the intake tubes going over the top. the (bearded one) says it wi= ll > work but is only for engines in the 10,000 RPM range and it's not good fo= r > 6500 -7000. does anyone. have any other suggestions. I will use four > injectors but what I want to do is keep the profile as low as possible. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Tony; >=20 > =20 >=20 > What works and what is optimum are two different things. And what is > optimum depends on what your criteria are. You'll not know what is optimu= m > without putting it on a dyno and trying a lot of different things. >=20 > =20 >=20 > My first impression looking at that intake is that it appears rather > massive. That's OK for a road vehicle, but not 'optimum' for an airplane= . >=20 > =20 >=20 > Lynn says: Short systems tend to have very well defined RPM peaks where l= ong > systems tend to null out well defined peaks, and are thus a bit easier to > tune.=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > I won=C2=92t argue with that, yet I have a short manifold (see photo) and= the > torque curve, measured on the dyno, that varies only 10% from 2500 rpm to > 7000 rpm, and is very constant (varies only about 2%) from 4800 to 7000. > When torque is flat, hp is going linear upward with rpm. Nothing wrong w= ith > that. =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > My conclusion is that if I used a longer =C2=91tuned=C2=92 induction, I c= ould get a > bit more power over a particular range near the tuned point. But for me, > optimum also meant a compact installation, and light weight. My manifold > for a three rotor weighs 2 =C2=BD lbs, the installation fits well, and po= wer is > good. I suppose that one can argue that although the manifold is short > (4.5=C2=94 flange to flange), the TB barrels add anther 5.5=C2=94 and the= fiberglass > air plenum maybe adds some more. Maybe it just involves some luck. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Al >=20 Al=20 Thanks for your reply. You are right optimum is a better word. I can figur= e optimum once I get it running on the test stand. Tony=20