X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imo-m26.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.7] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.2) with ESMTP id 1591983 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 02:11:57 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.137.7; envelope-from=WRJJRS@aol.com Received: from WRJJRS@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id q.cf8.29936bb (48624) for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 02:11:31 -0500 (EST) From: WRJJRS@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 02:11:31 EST Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Rotary engines in aircraft other than kit built To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1164179491" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5032 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1164179491 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jason, Your idea certainly has merit, but your options are going to be very limited. If you don't buy a completed kit plane (a possible good way to go) the only real alternative is Mistral Engines. They are working on a certified version of the Rotary. Theirs is a beautiful engine package that runs to normal aircraft prices. They have not certified an engine yet so you would have to wait a while to get an aircraft with a STC'ed engine change. I don't know what the legality of putting a non-certified engine in a certified aircraft is in Canada (good neighbor to the north). In the US the FAA makes it a true pain in the butt. FWIW Bill Jepson Greetings all.... I've been an on and off lurker on this list for a couple of years now. I really enjoy reading about these engines and the success many have had. My original intent was to go the kit route and install a rotary engine for all the obvious reasons. But after some deep soul searching, I've discovered kit building is not the best route for me. I'm not a builder. I don't have the time, the space or the desire to build, I just want to fly. I am willing to tinker a bit and the rotary really intrigues me. Despite this discovery, the idea of flying a certified aircraft being pulled through the air by a dinosaur engine doesn't appeal to me, especially when there is a better alternative in the rotary. Is there anyone on this list who has or knows someone who has swapped out a traditional air cooled banger for a rotary? Here in Canada we can register certain aircraft models as owner maintenance, which means a ton of savings on maintenance costs and repairs. I'm currently looking to find a good 4 seat Cessna with a high time or time ex'd engine that can be swapped to a rotary. I assume it would be a fairly easy job to mount and controls should also be pretty straight forward. It should be a close swap $'s wise for a complete rotary install if I can sell the removal engine core. Am I way off the runway centreline here, or does my idea have merit? Jason Ontario Canada -------------------------------1164179491 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jason,
Your idea certainly has merit, but your options are going to be very=20 limited. If you don't buy a completed kit plane (a possible good way to go)=20= the=20 only real alternative is Mistral Engines. They are working on a certified=20 version of the Rotary. Theirs is a beautiful engine package that runs to nor= mal=20 aircraft prices. They have not certified an engine yet so you would have to=20= wait=20 a while to get an aircraft with a STC'ed engine change. I don't know what th= e=20 legality of putting a non-certified engine in a certified aircraft is in Can= ada=20 (good neighbor to the north). In the US the FAA makes it a true pain in the=20 butt. FWIW
Bill Jepson
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>Greetings all....

I've been an on and off lurker on this=20= list=20 for a couple of years now.  I
really enjoy reading about these=20 engines and the success many have had.

My original intent was to g= o=20 the kit route and install a rotary engine for
all the obvious=20 reasons.  But after some deep soul searching, I've
discovered kit= =20 building is not the best route for me.  I'm not a builder.  I=20
don't have the time, the space or the desire to build, I just want to=20 fly. 
I am willing to tinker a bit and the rotary really intrigue= s=20 me.

Despite this discovery, the idea of flying a certified aircraf= t=20 being pulled
through the air by a dinosaur engine doesn't appeal to me= ,=20 especially when
there is a better alternative in the rotary.

I= s=20 there anyone on this list who has or knows someone who has swapped out a=20
traditional air cooled banger for a rotary?

Here in Canada we=20= can=20 register certain aircraft models as owner maintenance,
which means a t= on=20 of savings on maintenance costs and repairs.  I'm
currently looki= ng=20 to find a good 4 seat Cessna with a high time or time ex'd
engine that= can=20 be swapped to a rotary.  I assume it would be a fairly easy
job t= o=20 mount and controls should also be pretty straight forward.  It should= =20
be a close swap $'s wise for a complete rotary install if I can sell t= he=20
removal engine core.

Am I way off the runway centreline here,=20= or=20 does my idea have merit?

Jason
Ontario Canada=20
 
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