X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com ([24.25.9.100] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.2) with ESMTP id 1573485 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:12:32 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.100; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-098-162.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.98.162]) by ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id kAGKBmsl022930 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:11:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001001c709bb$73b27cc0$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Newby 20B questions Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:11:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C70991.8A81F8B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C70991.8A81F8B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Couldn't agree more, Bill. I'd settle for doing it right the second = time {:>) Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: wrjjrs@aol.com=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 1:10 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Newby 20B questions Ed, That is just the way it is in engineering. It is always easier to do = it better the second time! There was a sign on the wall of one of the = places I worked, I learned the meaning of later. "The trouble with doing = everything right the first time is that people don't understand how hard = that actually was!" Bill Jepson=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: eanderson@carolina.rr.com To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Sent: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 4:49 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Newby 20B questions I agree with your weight assessment, Bill. Pay attention to every = ounce as they quickly add up into pounds. I figure I could remove = approx 15-20 lbs of weight if I redid my FWF again from scratch based on = lessons learned. Its easier to keep the weight down than to remove it = later {:>) Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: WRJJRS@aol.com=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:15 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Newby 20B questions In a message dated 11/15/2006 4:37:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, = bob@hassel-usa.com writes: How does the flying weight compare on the 20B with a lyco 360 for = example? Thanks, Bob Bob, Mistral is listing the weight of the 20B conversion at 395 with = radiators I believe. The 20B will produce IO 540 like HP though. The 13B = done well can make almost 200HP without even P-porting. Most 13B's so = far are about the same weight as a 360 with all the plumbing. Carefully = setup the 13B NA engine shoould be lighter than a O-360, you just need = to do a carefull engineering job. Bill Jepson -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and = security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from = across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C70991.8A81F8B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Couldn't agree more, Bill.  I'd = settle for=20 doing it right the second time {:>)
 
Ed
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From:=20 wrjjrs@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, November 16, = 2006 1:10=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Newby = 20B=20 questions

Ed,
That is just the way it is in engineering. It is = always easier to do=20 it better the second time! There was a sign on the wall of one of the = places I=20 worked, I learned the meaning of later. "The trouble with doing = everything=20 right the first time is that people don't understand how hard that = actually=20 was!"
Bill Jepson 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 eanderson@carolina.rr.com
To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net
Sent: = Thu, 16=20 Nov 2006 4:49 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Newby 20B = questions

I agree with your weight assessment, Bill.  = Pay=20 attention to every ounce as they quickly add up into pounds.  I = figure I=20 could remove approx 15-20 lbs of weight if I redid my FWF again from = scratch=20 based on lessons learned. Its easier to keep the weight down than to = remove it=20 later {:>)
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 WRJJRS@aol.com=20
To: Rotary=20 motors in aircraft
Sent: Thursday, November 16, = 2006 12:15=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Newby 20B=20 questions

In a message dated 11/15/2006 4:37:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, = bob@hassel-usa.com=20 writes:
How=20 does the flying weight compare on the 20B with a lyco 360 for=20 example?
 
Thanks,
 
Bob
Bob, Mistral is listing the weight of the 20B conversion at 395 = with=20 radiators I believe. The 20B will produce IO 540 like HP though. The = 13B=20 done well can make almost 200HP without even P-porting. Most 13B's = so far=20 are about the same weight as a 360 with all the plumbing. Carefully = setup=20 the 13B NA engine shoould be lighter than a O-360, you just need to = do a=20 carefull engineering job.
Bill Jepson
Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive = set of free=20 safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality = videos from=20 across the web, free AOL Mail and = more.
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